switching VA home loan to another conventional loan

switching VA home loan to another conventional loan

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So I'm planning to buy a small multifamily property (2-4 units) with my VA home loan to start out my real estate investing. but later on, when I move, I will want to use that VA loan again because you can only use it for your primary residence. so, will I be able to change that VA loan to another conventional loan when I move?

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Lender · CO CA TX WA ID OR · Member since 2020 · 419 posts · 542 votes
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Quote from @Victor Olvera:

So I'm planning to buy a small multifamily property (2-4 units) with my VA home loan to start out my real estate investing. but later on, when I move, I will want to use that VA loan again because you can only use it for your primary residence. so, will I be able to change that VA loan to another conventional loan when I move?


This is my favorite strategy for new real estate investors that have access to a VA loan. The reason is because you have a unique opportunity to get into a home with a loan that is forgiving, requires little money down, and has the best possible rates available to investors. As a veteran myself that has used my VA benefit multiple times, it's simply the best way. Also, you can "split" your VA loan and reuse it to have a 2nd VA loan. Yes, you can have 2 at one time. This is a great way to begin investing with guardrails.

Few things to know before we get started.

1. Your entitlement is tied to both the loan amount as well as the county for which you purchased the home. For example, you live in Harris County, TX where the county conforming loan limit is $647,200. The VA will "guarantee" 25% of that purchase price before the entitlement is "used up." You can find your county's loan limit using this calculator.

2. You CAN purchase beyond $647,200 in this example for Harris County and the entitlement will still be considered "used up." Again, you can purchase beyond that limit.

3. You can also use up "part" of your entitlement by purchasing a home in Harris County for half ($323,600) of the county's loan limit, which will eat up 50% of your entitlement, and also leaving the other 50% remaining for future use.

Now
you can use your VA loan a 3rd time. Yes, you can. To do this, you can apply for a "1-Time Restoration," however there are a couple other steps that need to be completed first. 

1 - you need to refinance both homes into conventional or some other financial product like a DSCR.

2 - you need to apply for a 1-Time Restoration through your mortgage broker.

Couple things with the 1-Time Restoration: this is your ONE AND ONLY TIME in your life that you can do this. Once you request the restoration, you get zero other opportunities to pull this trick. So make sure you do this with homes that are quality investments. Also, you can repeat the "split entitlement" trick as mentioned above, however if you ever want to get any sort of VA benefit beyond these potentially 4 properties, you have to sell every single home associated with a VA loan, even the ones you refinanced.

How do you submit a 1-Time Restoration Request? Ask your broker to complete the paperwork and submit to the VA.

If you'd like to talk to a VA representative about this, call the VA's Regional Loan Center.

You can get 4 homes this way (more if you live in cheap areas) and I recommend all active duty, reservists, and veterans begin their journey this way while also saving to buy using more conventional investment properties using DSCR or conventional properties.

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    Lender · Fort Worth, TX · Member since 2016 · 8k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    4y

    @Victor Olvera I mean, in theory yes, you could do that...there are some requirements in order to do that - but you can also get a 2nd VA loan. That's also a possibility. Just get with a good loan officer, preferably one that has good experience with VA loans, to navigate these rules and that will help you when the time comes.

  • Member since 2021 · 15 posts · 4 votes
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    Quote from @Andrew Postell:

    @Victor Olvera I mean, in theory yes, you could do that...there are some requirements in order to do that - but you can also get a 2nd VA loan. That's also a possibility. Just get with a good loan officer, preferably one that has good experience with VA loans, to navigate these rules and that will help you when the time comes.


     sweet thank you so much!

  • Lender · CO CA TX WA ID OR · Member since 2020 · 419 posts · 542 votes
    4y
    Quote from @Victor Olvera:

    So I'm planning to buy a small multifamily property (2-4 units) with my VA home loan to start out my real estate investing. but later on, when I move, I will want to use that VA loan again because you can only use it for your primary residence. so, will I be able to change that VA loan to another conventional loan when I move?


    This is my favorite strategy for new real estate investors that have access to a VA loan. The reason is because you have a unique opportunity to get into a home with a loan that is forgiving, requires little money down, and has the best possible rates available to investors. As a veteran myself that has used my VA benefit multiple times, it's simply the best way. Also, you can "split" your VA loan and reuse it to have a 2nd VA loan. Yes, you can have 2 at one time. This is a great way to begin investing with guardrails.

    Few things to know before we get started.

    1. Your entitlement is tied to both the loan amount as well as the county for which you purchased the home. For example, you live in Harris County, TX where the county conforming loan limit is $647,200. The VA will "guarantee" 25% of that purchase price before the entitlement is "used up." You can find your county's loan limit using this calculator.

    2. You CAN purchase beyond $647,200 in this example for Harris County and the entitlement will still be considered "used up." Again, you can purchase beyond that limit.

    3. You can also use up "part" of your entitlement by purchasing a home in Harris County for half ($323,600) of the county's loan limit, which will eat up 50% of your entitlement, and also leaving the other 50% remaining for future use.

    Now
    you can use your VA loan a 3rd time. Yes, you can. To do this, you can apply for a "1-Time Restoration," however there are a couple other steps that need to be completed first. 

    1 - you need to refinance both homes into conventional or some other financial product like a DSCR.

    2 - you need to apply for a 1-Time Restoration through your mortgage broker.

    Couple things with the 1-Time Restoration: this is your ONE AND ONLY TIME in your life that you can do this. Once you request the restoration, you get zero other opportunities to pull this trick. So make sure you do this with homes that are quality investments. Also, you can repeat the "split entitlement" trick as mentioned above, however if you ever want to get any sort of VA benefit beyond these potentially 4 properties, you have to sell every single home associated with a VA loan, even the ones you refinanced.

    How do you submit a 1-Time Restoration Request? Ask your broker to complete the paperwork and submit to the VA.

    If you'd like to talk to a VA representative about this, call the VA's Regional Loan Center.

    You can get 4 homes this way (more if you live in cheap areas) and I recommend all active duty, reservists, and veterans begin their journey this way while also saving to buy using more conventional investment properties using DSCR or conventional properties.

  • Lender · Corvallis, OR · Member since 2021 · 93 posts · 54 votes
    4y

    Hi Victor - You can do a one-time full restoration of your VA entitlement when you refinance out of the VA loan to a conventional loan, and then can use your full entitlement for a new VA home loan. However, you can only fully restore your VA entitlement once by doing this. To fully restore entitlement moving forward, you will need to sell the home that is attached to the VA loan.

    You can have multiple VA loans at once because it's all dependent on the VA entitlement and guarantee amounts. When you exceed the guarantee, you will need to bring in a down payment. It can get confusing but there's a calculation lenders do to determine how much guarantee is left based off your entitlement amount and the loan amount.\

    Hope this helps and let me know if you have any other questions.

  • New to Real Estate · TX · Member since 2023 · 18 posts · 11 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Erik Browning:
    Quote from @Victor Olvera:

    So I'm planning to buy a small multifamily property (2-4 units) with my VA home loan to start out my real estate investing. but later on, when I move, I will want to use that VA loan again because you can only use it for your primary residence. so, will I be able to change that VA loan to another conventional loan when I move?


    This is my favorite strategy for new real estate investors that have access to a VA loan. The reason is because you have a unique opportunity to get into a home with a loan that is forgiving, requires little money down, and has the best possible rates available to investors. As a veteran myself that has used my VA benefit multiple times, it's simply the best way. Also, you can "split" your VA loan and reuse it to have a 2nd VA loan. Yes, you can have 2 at one time. This is a great way to begin investing with guardrails.

    Few things to know before we get started.

    1. Your entitlement is tied to both the loan amount as well as the county for which you purchased the home. For example, you live in Harris County, TX where the county conforming loan limit is $647,200. The VA will "guarantee" 25% of that purchase price before the entitlement is "used up." You can find your county's loan limit using this calculator.

    2. You CAN purchase beyond $647,200 in this example for Harris County and the entitlement will still be considered "used up." Again, you can purchase beyond that limit.

    3. You can also use up "part" of your entitlement by purchasing a home in Harris County for half ($323,600) of the county's loan limit, which will eat up 50% of your entitlement, and also leaving the other 50% remaining for future use.

    Now
    you can use your VA loan a 3rd time. Yes, you can. To do this, you can apply for a "1-Time Restoration," however there are a couple other steps that need to be completed first. 

    1 - you need to refinance both homes into conventional or some other financial product like a DSCR.

    2 - you need to apply for a 1-Time Restoration through your mortgage broker.

    Couple things with the 1-Time Restoration: this is your ONE AND ONLY TIME in your life that you can do this. Once you request the restoration, you get zero other opportunities to pull this trick. So make sure you do this with homes that are quality investments. Also, you can repeat the "split entitlement" trick as mentioned above, however if you ever want to get any sort of VA benefit beyond these potentially 4 properties, you have to sell every single home associated with a VA loan, even the ones you refinanced.

    How do you submit a 1-Time Restoration Request? Ask your broker to complete the paperwork and submit to the VA.

    If you'd like to talk to a VA representative about this, call the VA's Regional Loan Center.

    You can get 4 homes this way (more if you live in cheap areas) and I recommend all active duty, reservists, and veterans begin their journey this way while also saving to buy using more conventional investment properties using DSCR or conventional properties.

    Wow that's very helpful information thank you Erik! I am a recently separated vet, looking into MFH & SFH for LTR & STR, have you experienced what fits best, I.E I would think MFH 4 unit property would be more LTR than STR and for SFH you can do both LTR & STRs. I'm buying in Texas btw

  • Lender · CO CA TX WA ID OR · Member since 2020 · 419 posts · 542 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Brady Tome:
    Quote from @Erik Browning:
    Quote from @Victor Olvera:

    So I'm planning to buy a small multifamily property (2-4 units) with my VA home loan to start out my real estate investing. but later on, when I move, I will want to use that VA loan again because you can only use it for your primary residence. so, will I be able to change that VA loan to another conventional loan when I move?


    This is my favorite strategy for new real estate investors that have access to a VA loan. The reason is because you have a unique opportunity to get into a home with a loan that is forgiving, requires little money down, and has the best possible rates available to investors. As a veteran myself that has used my VA benefit multiple times, it's simply the best way. Also, you can "split" your VA loan and reuse it to have a 2nd VA loan. Yes, you can have 2 at one time. This is a great way to begin investing with guardrails.

    Few things to know before we get started.

    1. Your entitlement is tied to both the loan amount as well as the county for which you purchased the home. For example, you live in Harris County, TX where the county conforming loan limit is $647,200. The VA will "guarantee" 25% of that purchase price before the entitlement is "used up." You can find your county's loan limit using this calculator.

    2. You CAN purchase beyond $647,200 in this example for Harris County and the entitlement will still be considered "used up." Again, you can purchase beyond that limit.

    3. You can also use up "part" of your entitlement by purchasing a home in Harris County for half ($323,600) of the county's loan limit, which will eat up 50% of your entitlement, and also leaving the other 50% remaining for future use.

    Now
    you can use your VA loan a 3rd time. Yes, you can. To do this, you can apply for a "1-Time Restoration," however there are a couple other steps that need to be completed first. 

    1 - you need to refinance both homes into conventional or some other financial product like a DSCR.

    2 - you need to apply for a 1-Time Restoration through your mortgage broker.

    Couple things with the 1-Time Restoration: this is your ONE AND ONLY TIME in your life that you can do this. Once you request the restoration, you get zero other opportunities to pull this trick. So make sure you do this with homes that are quality investments. Also, you can repeat the "split entitlement" trick as mentioned above, however if you ever want to get any sort of VA benefit beyond these potentially 4 properties, you have to sell every single home associated with a VA loan, even the ones you refinanced.

    How do you submit a 1-Time Restoration Request? Ask your broker to complete the paperwork and submit to the VA.

    If you'd like to talk to a VA representative about this, call the VA's Regional Loan Center.

    You can get 4 homes this way (more if you live in cheap areas) and I recommend all active duty, reservists, and veterans begin their journey this way while also saving to buy using more conventional investment properties using DSCR or conventional properties.

    Wow that's very helpful information thank you Erik! I am a recently separated vet, looking into MFH & SFH for LTR & STR, have you experienced what fits best, I.E I would think MFH 4 unit property would be more LTR than STR and for SFH you can do both LTR & STRs. I'm buying in Texas btw


  • Lender · CO CA TX WA ID OR · Member since 2020 · 419 posts · 542 votes
    3y

    @Brady Tome first you'll need to see how much you can afford and also what your market will reward. Additionally, some municipalities are working to ban STR's, so you'll need to know what is even possible legally. Some multifamilies are good for STR's, while some are not. Just really depends on the specific property's configuration, location, etc.

  • New to Real Estate · TX · Member since 2023 · 18 posts · 11 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Erik Browning:

    @Brady Tome first you'll need to see how much you can afford and also what your market will reward. Additionally, some municipalities are working to ban STR's, so you'll need to know what is even possible legally. Some multifamilies are good for STR's, while some are not. Just really depends on the specific property's configuration, location, etc.


    That of course is step one figuring out what I'm approved for. Thank you for sharing that piece of info I wasn't aware some cites we're looking at banning STRs, I wonder why? I feel like for what I am buying for SFH is more what I need to be looking at but I would like to get a MFH for LTR, if possible to maximize my cashout refinance to roll over into other properties. What I'm trying to do would work for MFH doing STRs, the area I'm looking at currently would be beneficial to my model, it's just I don't have the knowledge if MFH (4 Units) is a common thing for STRs I.E. Air BNB

  • Lender · CO CA TX WA ID OR · Member since 2020 · 419 posts · 542 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Brady Tome:
    Quote from @Erik Browning:

    @Brady Tome first you'll need to see how much you can afford and also what your market will reward. Additionally, some municipalities are working to ban STR's, so you'll need to know what is even possible legally. Some multifamilies are good for STR's, while some are not. Just really depends on the specific property's configuration, location, etc.


    That of course is step one figuring out what I'm approved for. Thank you for sharing that piece of info I wasn't aware some cites we're looking at banning STRs, I wonder why? I feel like for what I am buying for SFH is more what I need to be looking at but I would like to get a MFH for LTR, if possible to maximize my cashout refinance to roll over into other properties. What I'm trying to do would work for MFH doing STRs, the area I'm looking at currently would be beneficial to my model, it's just I don't have the knowledge if MFH (4 Units) is a common thing for STRs I.E. Air BNB


    Got it. Well feel free to reach out directly if you have questions on see how much you might even be qualified for. That's step 1. I'm a veteran, a lender, and an investor. Additionally I've used my VA loan multiple times, done split entitlement, and even a VA renovation loan.

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