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Nikita Odnoralov
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Nikita Odnoralov
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  • Castle Pines CO
Posted Feb 15 2023, 12:22

Hey - I just got UC for a condo flip here in Denver. The purchase price is $176,000 and the ARV is $250,000 with several recent identical comps in the same complex. I need a hard money loan that will allow me to put less than 20% down. Closing is Feb. 27th.

I have a lender I work with often but they want 20% down and I'm trying to minimize cash out of pocket for this flip. Historically, I've done these for 3 weeks or less and plan to have it listed within a month. 

Any ideas? 

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Brett Deas
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Brett Deas
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Replied Feb 15 2023, 12:34

Well, the lending environment is getting pretty hard as you probably know, and trying to find HMLs who don't require a 1 month hold period is hard, they all want you to hold it for a little because they need to make money too. I am assuming you know some wholesalers, they typically have lots of HML contacts. The only guys I know are requiring a 2 month hold period right now.

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Nikita Odnoralov
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Nikita Odnoralov
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Replied Feb 15 2023, 12:38

@Brett Deas I may be okay with a 2 month hold. Message me your contacts. Thanks!

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Constancia R.
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Constancia R.
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Replied Feb 15 2023, 13:45
Quote from @Brett Deas:

Well, the lending environment is getting pretty hard as you probably know, and trying to find HMLs who don't require a 1 month hold period is hard, they all want you to hold it for a little because they need to make money too. I am assuming you know some wholesalers, they typically have lots of HML contacts. The only guys I know are requiring a 2 month hold period right now.

I came here with a similar scenario. Would you mind passing your contacts' info along to me, also? Thank you.

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Jonathan Taylor
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Jonathan Taylor
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Replied Feb 15 2023, 13:51

@Nikita Odnoralov F/F lenders may go as little at 15% down but there isn't enough info to say for sure. @Brett Deas is right. The lending market for F/F loans are not great at the moment so if it can work at 20% down and you will have it listed in a month, may be worth it.

Lender CA (#02115256) and NMLS (#1993906)

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Erik Estrada#4 Private Lending & Conventional Mortgage Advice Contributor
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Erik Estrada#4 Private Lending & Conventional Mortgage Advice Contributor
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Replied Feb 15 2023, 14:08
Quote from @Nikita Odnoralov:

Hey - I just got UC for a condo flip here in Denver. The purchase price is $176,000 and the ARV is $250,000 with several recent identical comps in the same complex. I need a hard money loan that will allow me to put less than 20% down. Closing is Feb. 27th.

I have a lender I work with often but they want 20% down and I'm trying to minimize cash out of pocket for this flip. Historically, I've done these for 3 weeks or less and plan to have it listed within a month. 

Any ideas? 


There are some that can do 85% LTV with a 7 day close. How much in rehab?

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Eliott Elias#2 Starting Out Contributor
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Eliott Elias#2 Starting Out Contributor
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Replied Feb 15 2023, 17:24

How much rehab does the property need? The deal sounds tight. 

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Alli Breighner
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Alli Breighner
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Replied Feb 15 2023, 17:26

Hi, I'd love to connect! Just sent you a DM.

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Brett Deas
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Brett Deas
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Replied Feb 16 2023, 11:06
Quote from @Constancia R.:
Quote from @Brett Deas:

Well, the lending environment is getting pretty hard as you probably know, and trying to find HMLs who don't require a 1 month hold period is hard, they all want you to hold it for a little because they need to make money too. I am assuming you know some wholesalers, they typically have lots of HML contacts. The only guys I know are requiring a 2 month hold period right now.

I came here with a similar scenario. Would you mind passing your contacts' info along to me, also? Thank you.
Feel free to message me and I can send them over. 

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Grant Smith
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Grant Smith
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Replied Apr 9 2023, 20:02

If you own other property free and clear, you can cross-collateralized the free and clear property in lieu of a down payment. Most hard money lenders will do it if they know how.

You can also raise private capital for the down payment or JV the project. 50% of something is always better than 100% of nothing.

I have also seen some investors taking out personal loans from places like SOFI. This can be extremely risky, but it is an option when the deal makes sense.