Any ideas on how to make this deal seller finance work?

Any ideas on how to make this deal seller finance work?

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Any ideas on how to make this seller finance deal work?

Duplex in West Allis, WI

(2) 3 bed/1 bath, 1750sqft

Current Rent: $925/m each (market rent about $1100/m)

Taxes: $3900/year

Sale price seller wants: $230,000

Seller mentioned wanting a 4.5% interest rate. He also is open to interest only for first 3 years.

All the numbers I ran do not seem to allow me to cash flow much with that sale price and interest rate when factoring in insurance($150/m), garbage ($150), prop mgmt(8%), capx (5%), vacancy (5%)

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Investor · Scottsdale Austin Tuktoyaktuk · Member since 2021 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
3y
Quote from @Aidan Birmingham:
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Aidan Birmingham:

Any ideas on how to make this seller finance deal work?

Duplex in West Allis, WI

(2) 3 bed/1 bath, 1750sqft

Current Rent: $925/m each (market rent about $1100/m)

Taxes: $3900/year

Sale price seller wants: $230,000

Seller mentioned wanting a 4.5% interest rate. He also is open to interest only for first 3 years.

All the numbers I ran do not seem to allow me to cash flow much with that sale price and interest rate when factoring in insurance($150/m), garbage ($150), prop mgmt(8%), capx (5%), vacancy (5%)

Some deals aren't "deals" at all and just don't work.

 Good advice. Do you think this is not a deal?

I don't know that market but from a numbers point of view, if it doesn't allow you to cash flow there is a problem. If you raised rents to market at $1100 per unit, and ran into a vacancy that loses you two month's rent (while tying to fill or an eviction), etc - that is a projected loss of 2 * $1100 for $2,200 and setting aside 5% for vacancy is $1,320 - not a disaster but you should be in it to be profitable. 
If a refrigerator, AC Unit, water heater, etc should need to be replaced, will the 5% cap ex cover it? What if there are two occurances in a year? How stable are the sewer system, roof, electrical, water?
Is it a decent neighborhood that is stable or a transient one? Too many unknowns on my end but if it doesn't cash flow, the odds are against success.

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  • Investor · Scottsdale Austin Tuktoyaktuk · Member since 2021 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    3y
    Quote from @Aidan Birmingham:

    Any ideas on how to make this seller finance deal work?

    Duplex in West Allis, WI

    (2) 3 bed/1 bath, 1750sqft

    Current Rent: $925/m each (market rent about $1100/m)

    Taxes: $3900/year

    Sale price seller wants: $230,000

    Seller mentioned wanting a 4.5% interest rate. He also is open to interest only for first 3 years.

    All the numbers I ran do not seem to allow me to cash flow much with that sale price and interest rate when factoring in insurance($150/m), garbage ($150), prop mgmt(8%), capx (5%), vacancy (5%)

    Some deals aren't "deals" at all and just don't work.
  • Member since 2021 · 33 posts · 13 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Account Closed:
    Quote from @Aidan Birmingham:

    Any ideas on how to make this seller finance deal work?

    Duplex in West Allis, WI

    (2) 3 bed/1 bath, 1750sqft

    Current Rent: $925/m each (market rent about $1100/m)

    Taxes: $3900/year

    Sale price seller wants: $230,000

    Seller mentioned wanting a 4.5% interest rate. He also is open to interest only for first 3 years.

    All the numbers I ran do not seem to allow me to cash flow much with that sale price and interest rate when factoring in insurance($150/m), garbage ($150), prop mgmt(8%), capx (5%), vacancy (5%)

    Some deals aren't "deals" at all and just don't work.

     Good advice. Do you think this is not a deal?

  • Investor · Scottsdale Austin Tuktoyaktuk · Member since 2021 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    3y
    Quote from @Aidan Birmingham:
    Quote from @Account Closed:
    Quote from @Aidan Birmingham:

    Any ideas on how to make this seller finance deal work?

    Duplex in West Allis, WI

    (2) 3 bed/1 bath, 1750sqft

    Current Rent: $925/m each (market rent about $1100/m)

    Taxes: $3900/year

    Sale price seller wants: $230,000

    Seller mentioned wanting a 4.5% interest rate. He also is open to interest only for first 3 years.

    All the numbers I ran do not seem to allow me to cash flow much with that sale price and interest rate when factoring in insurance($150/m), garbage ($150), prop mgmt(8%), capx (5%), vacancy (5%)

    Some deals aren't "deals" at all and just don't work.

     Good advice. Do you think this is not a deal?

    I don't know that market but from a numbers point of view, if it doesn't allow you to cash flow there is a problem. If you raised rents to market at $1100 per unit, and ran into a vacancy that loses you two month's rent (while tying to fill or an eviction), etc - that is a projected loss of 2 * $1100 for $2,200 and setting aside 5% for vacancy is $1,320 - not a disaster but you should be in it to be profitable. 
    If a refrigerator, AC Unit, water heater, etc should need to be replaced, will the 5% cap ex cover it? What if there are two occurances in a year? How stable are the sewer system, roof, electrical, water?
    Is it a decent neighborhood that is stable or a transient one? Too many unknowns on my end but if it doesn't cash flow, the odds are against success.

  • Member since 2021 · 33 posts · 13 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Account Closed:
    Quote from @Aidan Birmingham:
    Quote from @Account Closed:
    Quote from @Aidan Birmingham:

    Any ideas on how to make this seller finance deal work?

    Duplex in West Allis, WI

    (2) 3 bed/1 bath, 1750sqft

    Current Rent: $925/m each (market rent about $1100/m)

    Taxes: $3900/year

    Sale price seller wants: $230,000

    Seller mentioned wanting a 4.5% interest rate. He also is open to interest only for first 3 years.

    All the numbers I ran do not seem to allow me to cash flow much with that sale price and interest rate when factoring in insurance($150/m), garbage ($150), prop mgmt(8%), capx (5%), vacancy (5%)

    Some deals aren't "deals" at all and just don't work.

     Good advice. Do you think this is not a deal?

    I don't know that market but from a numbers point of view, if it doesn't allow you to cash flow there is a problem. If you raised rents to market at $1100 per unit, and ran into a vacancy that loses you two month's rent (while tying to fill or an eviction), etc - that is a projected loss of 2 * $1100 for $2,200 and setting aside 5% for vacancy is $1,320 - not a disaster but you should be in it to be profitable. 
    If a refrigerator, AC Unit, water heater, etc should need to be replaced, will the 5% cap ex cover it? What if there are two occurances in a year? How stable are the sewer system, roof, electrical, water?
    Is it a decent neighborhood that is stable or a transient one? Too many unknowns on my end but if it doesn't cash flow, the odds are against success.

    Thanks a lot for the input! The seller recently updated me that he is looking for a 10 year term because he does not want to leave the agreement for his kids. What is the best way to structure this agreement with a 10 year term?
  • Member since 2023 · 216 posts · 133 votes
    3y

    Does he want nothing down?  And with the 10 year term he still wants interest only on the first 3 years?

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