How can you have less than a 20% down payment in Ontario, Canada?

How can you have less than a 20% down payment in Ontario, Canada?

᠎᠎ · Member since 2016 · 20 posts · 1 vote

It looks like the rule is that you can't get a mortgage for less than a 20% down payment for a non-owner-occupied investment property. Is there a way around that? How do you do it?

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Rental Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2013 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
9y
Simply means that a lender isn't going to give you a loan for more than 80% of the price or value of the property (whichever is less) Doesn't mean that you can't be creative with where the 20% comes from. If I were a bank I wouldn't want to loan more than 80%. That doesn't mean you need 20
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  • Rental Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2013 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    9y
    Simply means that a lender isn't going to give you a loan for more than 80% of the price or value of the property (whichever is less) Doesn't mean that you can't be creative with where the 20% comes from. If I were a bank I wouldn't want to loan more than 80%. That doesn't mean you need 20
  • Rental Property Investor · Oakville/ Brantford, Ontario · Member since 2015 · 147 posts · 91 votes
    9y
    Would you be willing to buy a 3 or 4 unit and live in one? If so that can help. Otherwise 20% is pretty standard but if you don't have the funds maybe look further away from the gta...
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    Rental Property Investor · Fredericton, New Brunswick · Member since 2013 · 7k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    9y
    Originally posted by @Cody L.:

    Simply means that a lender isn't going to give you a loan for more than 80% of the price or value of the property (whichever is less)

    Doesn't mean that you can't be creative with where the 20% comes from.

    If I were a bank I wouldn't want to loan more than 80%. That doesn't mean you need 20

    Save, in Canada the law is quite specific about prescribing limits on your creativity (particularly for residential properties): your downpayment must come from your own funds/equity or can be gifted to you.  It cannot be borrowed.    Get too creative and you could easily find yourself on the wrong side of mortgage fraud.

  • Rental Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2013 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    9y
    Originally posted by @Roy N.:
    Originally posted by @Cody L.:

    Simply means that a lender isn't going to give you a loan for more than 80% of the price or value of the property (whichever is less)

    Doesn't mean that you can't be creative with where the 20% comes from.

    If I were a bank I wouldn't want to loan more than 80%. That doesn't mean you need 20

    Save, in Canada the law is quite specific about prescribing limits on your creativity (particularly for residential properties): your downpayment must come from your own funds/equity or can be gifted to you.  It cannot be borrowed.    Get too creative and you could easily find yourself on the wrong side of mortgage fraud.

    Yeah, I'm sure you're right. I tend to look at everything from a libertarian point of view. The rules surrounding loans should be between the borrower and the bank IMO. If they want to do only 60% LTV. Or are wiling to do 100% LTV, that's not the governments business (again, IMO)

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    Rental Property Investor · Fredericton, New Brunswick · Member since 2013 · 7k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    9y
    Originally posted by @Cody L.:

    Yeah, I'm sure you're right. I tend to look at everything from a libertarian point of view. The rules surrounding loans should be between the borrower and the bank IMO. If they want to do only 60% LTV. Or are wiling to do 100% LTV, that's not the governments business (again, IMO)

    Look at things with any lens is fine ... just need to decide if/where you are willing to curb your ideals or if you are flattering in orange.

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