Help: HELOC + private loan to finance next property purchase?

Help: HELOC + private loan to finance next property purchase?

Investor · Chicago, IL · Member since 2017 · 22 posts · 0 votes
Hey everyone, I wanted to get a little insight/pointers on the strategy I am thinking of taking on my next rental property purchase. Here is where I currently stand. I can take out a HELOC on my current owner-occupied rental and a close family member is willing to do the same on their property to lend me the rest of the cash needed. Once approved, I want to buy a property in full as foreclosed, bank owned, and/or auction property so I can buy cheap, rehab, and increase equity. I then plan on taking out a mortgage on the property and pay both HELOC’s in full. Obviously I will only do this if the cash flow is worth it. I want to see if anyone has used this strategy to further grow their property portfolio? Pros? Cons? Legalities? Thanks in advance!!
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Birmingham, AL · Member since 2014 · 178 posts · 75 votes
8y

hi,

So buying form auction normally requires a 24 hour close.  So yes cash is the way.  Here are some though in no real order. 

1, Right of redemption. Each state has its own rules. It is 1 year here. The last home owner can buy the building back from for what you paid at auction.  They do NOT have to play you for any improvements you did.  This is a small risk in low income areas. But in high income areas people may have family and friends how may help them get the house back. 

2. Right of redemption is scary to banks.  Construction loan can be harder to get if the building is still inside the redemption time.

3. 6 month seasoning.  When you refit, The bank will want the building in your name for 6 month before they will lend on a new appraisal value. Before that time, They will only lend to cost.  Your cash will be tied up for 6 months.  This may slow down your next deal.

4. HELOC. You can get a HELOC on the auctioned building right after the rehab is done. The local banked I used let us get 80% LTV based off new appraised value. It may help you start your next deal faster while still inside the 6 months seasoning period.

5. Know your max bid before the auction.  DON"T bid more than that.  Other investors may have different goals than you. Some are ok bidding it up to the point they can't pull all of the cash back out.

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  • Birmingham, AL · Member since 2014 · 178 posts · 75 votes
    8y

    hi,

    So buying form auction normally requires a 24 hour close.  So yes cash is the way.  Here are some though in no real order. 

    1, Right of redemption. Each state has its own rules. It is 1 year here. The last home owner can buy the building back from for what you paid at auction.  They do NOT have to play you for any improvements you did.  This is a small risk in low income areas. But in high income areas people may have family and friends how may help them get the house back. 

    2. Right of redemption is scary to banks.  Construction loan can be harder to get if the building is still inside the redemption time.

    3. 6 month seasoning.  When you refit, The bank will want the building in your name for 6 month before they will lend on a new appraisal value. Before that time, They will only lend to cost.  Your cash will be tied up for 6 months.  This may slow down your next deal.

    4. HELOC. You can get a HELOC on the auctioned building right after the rehab is done. The local banked I used let us get 80% LTV based off new appraised value. It may help you start your next deal faster while still inside the 6 months seasoning period.

    5. Know your max bid before the auction.  DON"T bid more than that.  Other investors may have different goals than you. Some are ok bidding it up to the point they can't pull all of the cash back out.

  • Andrew PostellPro Member
    Lender · Fort Worth, TX · Member since 2016 · 8k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    8y

    @Freddy Hernandez using a HELOC to purchase a property is a good strategy if you have a plan to pay it back quickly (since the rate is variable) and since you have a plan this is good. There are A LOT of misconceptions on refinancing and taking cash out (even to pay back a HELOC). I wrote a pretty lengthy article on it HERE. Feel free to ask more questions if you need.  Thanks!

  • Investor · Chicago, IL · Member since 2017 · 22 posts · 0 votes
    8y

    @Wilson Lee That is a lot of great info!! Thank you!

  • Investor · Chicago, IL · Member since 2017 · 22 posts · 0 votes
    8y

    @Andrew Postell Thank you Andrew! I'll make sure to read your article and get back with any questions.

  • Investor · Cleveland, OH · Member since 2015 · 6k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    8y

    @Freddy Hernandez, can you think of a better use for a HELOC?

    (Variations of this are probably the most discussed/recommended here at BP). All the best...

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