Seller finance property AND closing costs?

Seller finance property AND closing costs?

Member since 2018 · 35 posts · 4 votes

I found a multifamily property that is open to owner financing the entire property, but I do not have any money for closing costs Is it possible to add the closing costs to the note the seller will be holding, if the seller pays closing costs? 

Example - Seller agreed to finance 600k deal

Closing costs - 18k

New agreed upon price is 618k (18k over list price) because they are paying closing costs

Deal will still cash flow

What other methods are there to solving this issue?

Thanks

Jon

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Real Estate Professional · West Palm Beach, FL · Member since 2012 · 23k+ posts · 13k+ votes
7y

Whenever a seller offers 100% financing, they are trying to make their problem, your problem.  With no cash reserves, vacancies, repairs and major repairs will kill you.

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  • Jason G.Pro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Long Island, NY · Member since 2015 · 434 posts · 495 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Jon Mark:

    I found a multifamily property that is open to owner financing the entire property, but I do not have any money for closing costs Is it possible to add the closing costs to the note the seller will be holding, if the seller pays closing costs? 

    Example - Seller agreed to finance 600k deal

    Closing costs - 18k

    New agreed upon price is 618k (18k over list price) because they are paying closing costs

    Deal will still cash flow

    What other methods are there to solving this issue?

    Thanks

    Jon

     Just curious, if you do not have closing costs, do you have reserves?  

  • Member since 2018 · 35 posts · 4 votes
    7y

    @Jason Gines

    Cash reserves? I am going to be honest, I am broke right now, which inspires me even more to do creative financing

  • Lender · Seattle, WA · Member since 2014 · 2k+ posts · 899 votes
    7y

    Jon - you can certainly ask the seller to do this ...you might  agree to a slightly higher note rate to make the counter offer a bit more appealing

  • Ned CareyPro Member
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    Investor · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2008 · 17k+ posts · 13k+ votes
    7y

    @Jon Mark yes it is possible to for the seller to finance the closing costs as you suggest. The seller can loan you as much as he or she wants. But does the closer have the money to pull out of their pocket to pay those costs?

    Your comment about being broke tells me this is a high risk deal. I certainly wouldn't sell to you and absolutely would not pay closing costs. You are going to be stuck the first time a problem comes up.

  • Member since 2018 · 35 posts · 4 votes
    7y
    @Ned Carey Let me rephrase, I’m not broke by most people standards, I make between 100-130k a year at my job. What I mean is, I don’t have 18k set aside for closing costs, and it would take me about a year to save that. The deal itself will cash flow approximately $2000 a month. My business plan is to not take any profits for the first year or two, and set aside between 24-30k in a separate account for repairs, vacancy loss, and maintenance
  • Real Estate Professional · West Palm Beach, FL · Member since 2012 · 23k+ posts · 13k+ votes
    7y

    Whenever a seller offers 100% financing, they are trying to make their problem, your problem.  With no cash reserves, vacancies, repairs and major repairs will kill you.

  • Steve HodgdonPro Member
    Investor · Novato, CA · Member since 2015 · 432 posts · 321 votes
    7y

    Remember when real estate collapsed in 08? Are you prepared for that again? Can you afford to feed the project if everything goes sideways outside of your control. Took me 8 years to climb back from a purchase in 12/06 that was worth 1/2 what I paid for it in 3/08. 

  • Member since 2018 · 35 posts · 4 votes
    7y
    @Wayne Brooks It’s an estate sale the kids don’t want
  • Rental Property Investor · Honolulu, HI · Member since 2018 · 335 posts · 251 votes
    7y

    @Jon Mark Its really up to the seller if they will offer that or not. Like it was said up there, it might be more attractive to the seller if you offer say 630k to give them an incentive to allow you to put zero down. Another alternative would be to partner on the deal with someone else who could bring in the closing costs/cash reserves or take out a personal line of credit if your credit score/DTI is good enouh.

  • Russell BrazilBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Agent · Washington, D.C. · Member since 2012 · 17k+ posts · 30k+ votes
    7y

    It is highly unlikely someone will pay $18k to get rid of their property.

    If you are that committed to the property, take out a personal loan for the closing costs.

  • Don KonipolBusiness Member
    Investor · The Woodlands TX / Avon, CT · Member since 2009 · 6k+ posts · 10k+ votes
    7y

    "When you ain't got nothin, you got nothin to lose" -  Bob Dylan, 'Like a Rolling Stone'

    Private Mortgage Financing Partners, LLC
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