CARES Act and Borrowing from IRA for Property Investment

CARES Act and Borrowing from IRA for Property Investment

Investor · Austin, TX · Member since 2019 · 43 posts · 9 votes

Here it is, I have been wanting to get into real estate for some time.  After a positive test for COVID, I qualify for the retirement loan withdrawal.  Also, I work in the aerospace industry and have a strong potential to get laid off in the near future.  I also own a rural home and will be looking to relocate if this happens and may encounter some downtime on the sale of that home

With that background said, an experienced investor and friend approached me about a 50/50 split in his location. I have the deal would net about 14% CoCROI before the Refi. I talked to my CPA and if spreadout, I would most likely be hit with income taxes, driving down that estimated CoCROI to about 9%. I normally wouldnt even think about this, but given I do not want to touch my cash reserves and I am not confident in the markets returning 9% over the next year, when I can then turn and pay my loan back off. On the surface, it sounds like a no-brainer to me, but I feel like if I pay that money back into my IRA and then withdraw it again at 60 and pay taxes on it again, the government is getting over on me. I know what the estimated numbers say, but I need a sanity check and some opinions here before I leverage this to get into real estate.

All that said, I also want to give back to this friend who has mentored me and potentially leverage his cash in the future.  I am married and have a toddler.

What am I missing and what would you do?

Thank you.



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  • Rental Property Investor · RVA · Member since 2016 · 5k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    6y

    Is that CPA specialized or experienced in real estate? Did they have any suggestions for you to potentially reduce that tax bill, if possible?

    I would think about the IRA withdrawal and this deal as separate concepts. First, is the deal actually good? We don't have enough information to evaluate that, so understand for yourself if that 14% is a conservative number or not.

    IRA withdrawal: I wouldn't do it unless I really needed the money, personally. The ticking clock for the penalty/taxes is just not something I want to deal with. I'd prefer to use more established strategies to deploy that money into a real estate deal.

    Have you talked to a SDIRA custodian and evaluated whether your IRA can partner with this person on its own? There are many restrictions that apply, but avoiding the ticking clock on the withdrawal penalty would be what I would look to do.

  • Basit SiddiqiBusiness Member
    Accountant · New York, NY · Member since 2015 · 8k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    6y

    @Ryan Sweeney

    I am surprised your income taxes will give you that much of a hit.

    It seems like he took the 14% and multiplied it by your federal/state marginal tax rate and told you 9%.
    Did he factor in that you would have depreciation which would reduce the taxable portion of the cash flow?

  • Investor · Austin, TX · Member since 2019 · 43 posts · 9 votes
    6y
    Hi Taylor.  My CPA is not RE specialized.  I live in Rural KY and didnt plan on investing until moving and establishing myself and network back in Texas, where I could finally settle down (former military) and evaluate from more options.  This guy is one of the handful in town and new little about the act in general and basically read of the IRS website.

    I have ran the numbers in addition to what my friend has shown me.  This area is his farm and he has a few dozen properties there.  He has already agreed to a purchase and has the cash himself, he is asking if I want in as basically a favor.

    I didnt consider whether the SDIRA could partner on its own and would need to look into that!


    Hi Basit, so truth be told, see above comment to tailor, my CPA struggled to understand the situation and basically advised that it would be a spread over 3 years.  In this example, I would borrow $50k and spread that at $16,666 over 3 years onto my income bracket of currently 22% which would equate to around $11K.  This is all my math, as I stated, since prior to this my taxes have been pretty simple.  I haven't sought out a RE focused/experience CPA because I plan on moving from here yesterday.
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