So-Called "Audit Protection" does not protect

So-Called "Audit Protection" does not protect

Metro NY + New Bedford · Member since 2022 · 294 posts · 216 votes

Recent case with a new Client who use a well-known self-prepare tax program, let's call it "HyperTax".   Got confused with the questions regarding Material Participation and elected that status.  Got audited by IRS.  Which is rare.  They have limited Manpower and a Form 1040 with a Material Participation election, well, you would think they had bigger fish to fry.  But no.  They assigned a  Revenue Agent, and issued a document request.  Well, the Taxpayers thought that they were safe, because they bought the Audit Protection service, which is NOT part of HyperTax, but is a separate company.  

So, what did the Taxpayer get for their Audit Protection?  Well, the job of protection went to an Enrolled Agent, who apparently did this as a sideline, because he notified the Revenue Agent that he had to delay any response until after 4/15.  

When the EA finally got around to dealing with the audit, all that he did was agree with the Revenue Agent  on every assessment which IRS made. And to make matters worse, the EA did not provide documentation for Schedule E expenses, despite the fact they they were available.  Which greatly puzzled the Taxpayers.  The final tally, plus interest and penalties was a little over six figures.  (I don't want to give dollar amounts).  

In the end, I got Power of Attorney, and we ended up getting all penalties abated, and all operating expenses accepted.  On the issue of Material Participation, the facts were not with the Taxpayers.

(Now, many EA's are crackerjack reps for dealing with IRS.  I was just listing his qualifications to represent a Taxpayer.  There are three:  CPA, EA and Attorney at Law.)

Lesson:  that HyperTax program has caused a lot of pain for a lot of taxpayers when the issue is beyond a simple W2 and some bank interest.  For Multistate real properties and Material Participation, it will cause you grief.  And as for audit protection, I would not rely upon it.

There.  Anyone else have a tale dealing with this?  I don't want to mention the name of the program, lest their lawyers throw a hissy fit with BP Management. 

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Aaron ZimmermanBusiness Member
Accountant · Chicago, IL · Member since 2018 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
1y

Very informative post. It's absolutely crucial the taxpayer and preparer understand what they're signing. If you're going to offer audit protection, at least make it a quality service! Not a great look for the profession for this court case 

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  • Specialist · Sarasota, FL · Member since 2024 · 33 posts · 8 votes
    1y

    @Bruce D. Kowal well said I am new to BiggerPockets and just starting to connect with other professional on the platform. I recently came across a company that had a IRONCLAD Audit Protection. 

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    • Michael PlaksPro Member
      Tax Accountant / Enrolled Agent · Houston, TX · Member since 2014 · 5k+ posts · 6k+ votes
      1y
      Quote from @Brian Kiczula:

      @Bruce D. Kowal well said I am new to BiggerPockets and just starting to connect with other professional on the platform. I recently came across a company that had a IRONCLAD Audit Protection. 


      Using the word "ironclad" (and in all capitals, to boot) tells me two things:
      1. no understanding of what "audit insurance" really means
      2. likely a paid referral arrangement with that company

      I don't care about the latter if it is true, and I issue my advance apology if it isn't. There's nothing wrong with paid referrals anyway.

      Let's talk about the "ironclad" part. Absolutely nobody, not this company, not Bruce, not myself - none of us - can guarantee a favorable outcome of an IRS audit. This is similar to lawsuits: even the best lawyer in the world can lose a case. 

      Also, nobody can guarantee that an IRS audit will not happen. As Bruce said, audits these days are very rare, but they still exist, and nobody can insure you against you drawing an unlucky lottery ticket.

      The only true meaning of "ironclad" could be this: 
      We guarantee that, should you get audited by the IRS, we will not charge you for dealing with the IRS on your behalf.

      This is as far as it can go. Any assurance past that is 100% hot air. 

      Here is what is missing from the above assurance:
      We guarantee that we will assign the most knowledgeable expert to defend you against your IRS audit, and we guarantee that this expert will invest MAXIMUM available time and effort and skill into your case.

      Yes, I just used all caps myself, and for a good reason: this is the only thing that really matters. Because here is the reality, coming from an industry insider: the tax professionals who take such audit protection cases from those national tax companies are paid ridiculously little money for these jobs. Also, they are paid flat fees.

      It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that their motivation is the opposite of what you want: they want to invest the MINIMUM possible time, effort and skill into defending you. They really can't afford anything past the bare minimum.

      The result will usually be what Bruce described in his post: you get screwed. But, if it makes you happy, you did not have to pay someone like Bruce or myself who could defend you for real. 

      No miracles. You get what you pay for, most of the time.

      PS. For background, I've been an EA for 30 years and have successfully defended dozens of my clients against IRS audits. (And I will never accept the crumbs which are audit representation cases from "HyperTax" and their likes.)

  • Aaron ZimmermanBusiness Member
    Accountant · Chicago, IL · Member since 2018 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    1y

    Very informative post. It's absolutely crucial the taxpayer and preparer understand what they're signing. If you're going to offer audit protection, at least make it a quality service! Not a great look for the profession for this court case 

  • Member since 2025 · 4 posts · 1 vote
    1y

    I understand the concern, and having someone on the taxpayer's side that vested is important. I do agree that audit protection services are only as good as the person representing the taxpayer. 

    Audit defense is more of a game at the audit level. You're dealing against the person across the table and formalities can matter. Even the supervisory level can feel like a check-the-box scenario in terms of whether an auditor went through the right procedures and not necessarily the correct answer. Appeals can vary.

  • Metro NY + New Bedford · Member since 2022 · 294 posts · 216 votes
    1y

    Hey, Mike.  Thanks for your comment, Buddy!

  • Tyler FoshePro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Los Angeles Area · Member since 2021 · 60 posts · 23 votes
    1y

    Was the client doing their own taxes with this program? If the taxes and penalties were over six figures it sounds like they are at the point where they need to hire a CPA to do their taxes. And that "Audit Protection" service seems more like "Audit Assistance" for the IRS!

  • Metro NY + New Bedford · Member since 2022 · 294 posts · 216 votes
    1y

    Yes.  That was my reference to the popular tax prep program, we will call "HyperTax".

    Also, in wondering how this return got selected, I have heard from very very reliable sources that IRS is using AI.  And it would not surprise me if the selection criteria would be:

    Select for Examination where both Spouses have W2 income AND the Taxpayers claim material participation on Schedule E, line 43.  

    In programming language, "where the value of Schedule E,  line 42 is negative."

    Maybe they set a limit of, say, $50,000 for that value on Schedule E.

    If this is what they are doing, more power to them.  Good use of AI with limited Manpower.

    Now, maybe they will go after all those Notes Payable/Receivable on S Corps and LLC's and look for interest income and expense.

    • Michael PlaksPro Member
      Tax Accountant / Enrolled Agent · Houston, TX · Member since 2014 · 5k+ posts · 6k+ votes
      1y
      Quote from @Bruce D. Kowal:

      Now, maybe they will go after all those Notes Payable/Receivable on S Corps and LLC's and look for interest income and expense.


      Why would you give them any ideas? 

  • Jason MalabuteBusiness Member
    Accountant · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 912 votes
    1y

    Great post — totally agree with your point about how unreliable audit protection can be. As a CPA who works with real estate investors, I’ve seen cases where the assigned rep did nothing more than agree with the IRS, leaving the client exposed. It’s a strong reminder that when you’re dealing with material participation or multi-property issues, you need someone who will actually advocate for you, not just check the boxes.

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