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Ana Garcia
CPA from Miami, FL

posted over 3 years ago

Hello BP community,

After almost getting hit with a category 5 hurricane in South Florida, I wonder if it is a good idea to have more coverage or less. As investors, we try to keep our costs low, therefore, the goal would be to have lower premiums. On the other hand, experiencing a natural disaster can be very damaging and an insurance policy can save the day...but does it really?

Does anyone have any advice on how they insure their properties? Do you focus on paying the lowest premium possible, even if deductibles are very high? Or do you prefer to have more coverage?

Thank you,

-Ana

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Julie Barrow
Investor from Napa, CA

replied over 3 years ago

Ana-

I just listened to the Mobile Home Park Investors podcast #073 with Kurt Kelley, which is a discussion post-hurricanes about insuring parks.  This is one of Jefferson Lilly and Brad Johnson's podcasts; good info.  Kurt Kelley insures many parks through the country.

-Julie

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Christopher Smith
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replied over 3 years ago

I can't provide any Hurricane specific related experiences, but I can comment on how I evaluate my insurance needs. 

Probably as with most folks I want to obtain as low a premium as possible, however that is subject to a number of other factors. The quality or rating of the insurer being a very important one (e.g., AM Best rating, internet reviews from actual policy holders, etc.). My experience is that rates can vary widely even for companies of the same AM Best rating, so it really helps to shop around. Additionally, the reputation of the carrier for being scrupulously fair and appropriately responsive to those making bona fide claims is another very significant factor.

With respect to risk, I think this is driven by your own risk tolerance. I believe in self insuring when possible as this is over a long period of time is often the most economical way to go. Of course that reflects my own personal modestly high tolerance for risk assumption. On the flip side, highly risk adverse folks want to sleep easier at night and would never do that. 

On my rental properties, I have a $1,000 deductible on each and have had 2 file-able claims over the last 10 years or so (both for water damage, one about 5K, and one about 25k). I'm certainly glad I had the coverage especially for the larger loss and was very impressed that my insurance company paid without much static for everything less the deductible particularly given the all the horror stories I have heard about water damage related claims from others.

In any event, I think it ultimately just comes down to understanding your own personal willingness to assume risk, and how much. Then once you know that doing solid due diligence work on selecting an affordable yet financially secure and highly responsive outfit to provide the coverage. 

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Carl Fischer
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replied over 3 years ago

@Ana Garcia

Great question. I am re assessing my insurance needs because as you know hurricane insurance is expensive on the coasts. The companies make the deductibles any where from 2% - 10% of the property value. Thus $$10k worth of sheds, fences, soffits still come out of pocket. Mortgage companies force the insurance but I am looking into self insuring. My properties have gone through 50 years of hurricanes. It seems most significant costs are from roof damage in America. (Excluding mobile homes)

I'm looking for a plan to achieve lower insurance costs and better insurance coverage. It might be to get better roof material shutters or other protection. 

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Ana Garcia
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replied over 3 years ago

Thank you everyone for your input. I was very curious about this topic because we have never had to use insurance before, and thinking a hurricane could hit and cause damage made us wonder if our insurance coverage is sufficient.

@Julie Barrow I will check out the podcast. Thank you for the info!

@Christopher Smith I will make sure to check those conditions as well (rating, reviews, etc.). We do plan to shop around and get several estimates. 

@Carl Fischer Good point! Assessing which areas are more vulnerable and getting them as "hurricane-proof" as possible may be a good strategy to lower premiums yet feel protected. 

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Matt Boettinger
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replied over 3 years ago

Hi Ana  - If you have park owned homes you need to insure for replacement value.  Does your park has mostly tenant owned homes?  If so, and a hurricane comes through and the homes are totaly destroyed the tenants will most likely move on.  We have a park in the Gulf Shores area.  We have 18 months of income replacement insurance.  This would give us time to raise capital and buy more homes to put in your park.    You may want to look at that too.

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