Tax question. Total cash flow or AFTER income - expenses?

Tax question. Total cash flow or AFTER income - expenses?

Knoxville, TN · Member since 2019 · 58 posts · 7 votes

Dumb question or maybe I’m not thinking this correctly.

What’s actually taxed? The total cash flow just after the mortgage is paid? For example;

Mortgage payment $1000, rental income $1500. So is the $500 that’s being taxed?

Or is it AFTER the expenses ie the "reserve funds" (HOA, Vacancy, repairs, CapEX)? So in actually, more close to $150 that's being taxed after mortgage ($1000) is paid from the rental income ($1500)?

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Accountant · NY · Member since 2019 · 6 posts · 3 votes
6y

After Expenses as you can deduct qualified expenses. I hope this helps and good thinking with the cash flow!

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  • Accountant · NY · Member since 2019 · 6 posts · 3 votes
    6y

    After Expenses as you can deduct qualified expenses. I hope this helps and good thinking with the cash flow!

  • Accountant · Atlanta, GA · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    6y

    @Min Kim

    Neither.

    What you're describing are balance sheet movements that never hit the P&L.

    e.g. the principal component of a mortgage payment is just a decrease in cash and a corresponding decrease in a liability.  It's not an expense.  Reserve accounts are just movements of cash between accounts.  They're also not expenses.

    Taxable income =/= cash flow.

    Start with your P&L (which isn't the same as your cash flow statement), then add in non-cash items such as tax depreciation and amortization.

    • Basit SiddiqiBusiness Member
      Accountant · New York, NY · Member since 2015 · 8k+ posts · 3k+ votes
      6y

      @Min Kim

      Generally speaking, rental income(rents collected + other fees collected, etc) less expenses(mortgage interest expense, real estate taxes, insurance, depreciation, etc) is taxed.

      Some differences between cash flow and rental income that is taxed is principal payments and depreciation.

      Principal paydown is not a tax deduction. The IRS also allows a deduction for depreciation.

      You may want to consider working with an accountant to help you navigate through this.

    • Knoxville, TN · Member since 2019 · 58 posts · 7 votes
      6y

      @Basit Siddiqi

      Yeah, it looks like I’ll gladly pay a professional to get this done.

    • Accountant · Las Vegas, NV · Member since 2019 · 2 posts · 1 vote
      6y
      Hello Min,
      The short answer is: You are taxed on the amount of revenue received, less any and all expenses, incurred cost, depreciation, etc..

    • Rental Property Investor · Billerica, MA · Member since 2019 · 9 posts · 4 votes
      6y

      @Min Kim look into using leverage for depreciation

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