Can I charge my LLC rent vs home office deduction?

Can I charge my LLC rent vs home office deduction?

Member since 2019 · 3 posts · 1 vote

I'm relatively new to the real estate investing world and continue to focus a lot of energy on education. I am currently focused on tax strategies for our LLC (partnership with spouse).

Can we sign a lease agreement with our LLC to provide/pay rent for use of our personal home/property, to include a portion of utilities, HOA, and insurance? Or invoice the LLC for use? We are looking to do this versus a home office deduction, which we probably wouldn't qualify for anyway (would fail the exclusive clause).

I’m sure this question has been covered before in the forums, but I can’t seem to locate a specific thread on this topic. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

-Jonathan

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Investor/Accountant/Builder · Meno, OK · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 918 votes
6y
Does no good. Because if you pay rent to yourself as an expense of the LLC then you have rental income on you personally. Offset. a waste of time. See a tax advisor
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  • Investor/Accountant/Builder · Meno, OK · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 918 votes
    6y
    Does no good. Because if you pay rent to yourself as an expense of the LLC then you have rental income on you personally. Offset. a waste of time. See a tax advisor
  • Morris County, NJ · Member since 2020 · 5k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    6y

    @Jonathan Burkett

    Paying yourself doesn’t work. Think about... you are generating fictitious income from to deduct more real expenses. If successful, you would have just used your deductions against fictitious income.

    Anyway, still agree you should talk to tax professional about how/if you can use home expenses. That going to be a tough one

  • Michael PlaksPro Member
    Tax Accountant / Enrolled Agent · Houston, TX · Member since 2014 · 5k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    6y

    @Jonathan Burkett

    I would not focus on tax strategies now. Focus on figuring out how to make deals in today's environment.

    Your idea does not work anyway.

  • Member since 2019 · 3 posts · 1 vote
    6y

    Thank you for the information. I can see/understand the zero/sum game.

    And copy on the focus for building during this time period. We are working to continue building our team in multiple markets (KC and Alabama); any input for that is greatly welcomed. :)

    Thanx!

  • Michael PlaksPro Member
    Tax Accountant / Enrolled Agent · Houston, TX · Member since 2014 · 5k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    6y

    @Jonathan Burkett

    You asked for "any input", and I hope it includes an unvarnished kind.

    Drop this "building our team" thing. It's a code word for tire kickers who do nothing but loitering around REI clubs (now online, but same concept), talking shop to everybody while doing absolutely nothing to actually close deals and make money.

    Also drop the "multiple markets" thing. It's the next stage, after your cut your teeth in your local area.

    Generally, less talk and getting ready (which are both fun but do not pay bills) and more rolling up your sleeves and doing the work.

  • Attorney · Slidell, LA · Member since 2016 · 322 posts · 179 votes
    6y

    The other problem with putting your personal home in an LLC is that you will probably lose your homestead exemption, and end up paying more in property taxes.

  • Developer · New York City, NY · Member since 2015 · 812 posts · 718 votes
    6y
    The home office deduction is ripe for an audit.  It would be better to see if it is possible to legally rent out a part of your home to your LLC and charge rent.  Use the rent as a deduction for the LLC and an income for you.  Of course, check with a local CPA to see if this is okay.
  • Michael PlaksPro Member
    Tax Accountant / Enrolled Agent · Houston, TX · Member since 2014 · 5k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Calvin Thomas:
    The home office deduction is ripe for an audit.

    Nope. It was that way many years ago. Not anymore. No reason to fear an audit because of home office.

    And this silly self-rent trick does not work. 

  • Developer · New York City, NY · Member since 2015 · 812 posts · 718 votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Michael Plaks:
    Originally posted by @Calvin Thomas:
    The home office deduction is ripe for an audit.

    Nope. It was that way many years ago. Not anymore. No reason to fear an audit because of home office.

    And this silly self-rent trick does not work.

    I never claimed it as we have offices, but I know many people and accountants which say it is perfectly legal.  I wasn't recommending it, I was suggesting to run it by a CPA.  You are a tax accountant, so you probably know more about deductions than I do.

  • Member since 2024 · 2 posts · 0 votes
    2y

    Just met with our tax advisor and he said it does work to increase your deductions for your LLC if your LLC rents out your home office. The key is to only do this for 14 days or less… then you don't have to report that money as income you made but can still count it as an LLC expense. Not sure if this is common or not… any thoughts?

  • Russell BrazilBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Agent · Washington, D.C. · Member since 2012 · 17k+ posts · 30k+ votes
    2y
    Quote from @Sarah Villamizar:

    Just met with our tax advisor and he said it does work to increase your deductions for your LLC if your LLC rents out your home office. The key is to only do this for 14 days or less… then you don't have to report that money as income you made but can still count it as an LLC expense. Not sure if this is common or not… any thoughts?


     The 14 day trick to rent your home blows up in everyone's faces that use it. Go look at the tax court case on it.

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