HI everyone, I decided to self-manage my property due to a lot of problems I have had with the current property management who I hired two years ago the day I closed on my property. Today is Feb 12 and I will officially manage my property on March 1. My PM had all leases in their custody till I picked them up a few days ago.
Now when going through the leases that the tenants signed with the previous owner or with this PM, I realized that PM never enforced rent increase clauses in those leases or collected annual pet fee ($150/tenant with pets) over the last 2 years. The total back rent increase and pet fee amount is over $2300, of which PM is entitled 8%.
I do not know how long the PM will take to collect such amount from my tenants, but PM should subtract this amount from their PM fee for February (about $1500, plus tenant finder fee of $800). Is that the right way to go? My property is in Maryland, but outside of any rent control cities.
Thank you in advance for sharing your wisdom on this matter!
Honolulu, HI · Member since 2008 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
3y
If the rental agreements are clear, along with your management agreement, you should file a complaint with the state office that regulates RE licensing. You should consider at least a brief review by a RE attorney also. If the PM did not follow the terms of a valid rental agreement they could well be liable. The tenant cannot be held liable if they were never informed of the charges when due.
Honolulu, HI · Member since 2008 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
3y
Aloha,
It may be dependent on the terms of your management agreement...read it closely. What did you agree to in writing with regard to the prior existing Rental Agreements and their terms? Were the rent increases specified for particular dates, or were they optional? Does the rental agreement specify recurring annual pet fee? If the documentation is clear enough, then perhaps you can collect from the PM, but you indicate they also have a finders fee due. If they still are holding rent moneys and tenant security deposits, it may become difficult to collect any of it. Do you have regular monthly financial reports from the PM that document the rents charged and collected to substantiate your position?
It may be dependent on the terms of your management agreement...read it closely. What did you agree to in writing with regard to the prior existing Rental Agreements and their terms? Were the rent increases specified for particular dates, or were they optional? Does the rental agreement specify recurring annual pet fee? If the documentation is clear enough, then perhaps you can collect from the PM, but you indicate they also have a finders fee due. If they still are holding rent moneys and tenant security deposits, it may become difficult to collect any of it. Do you have regular monthly financial reports from the PM that document the rents charged and collected to substantiate your position?
Yes, they have been providing monthly financial reports, which do not show rent increases after the lease expires and the lease holdover kicked in with rent increase stipulations. Also, annual pet rent is specifically provided for in those leases. I was not aware of those because I did not have a copy of any of those leases, as I just wanted to be a hands-off landlord at the beginning. It was a bad mistake to hire them, the worst is they only showed vacant units when they were available, and they rarely were.
Honolulu, HI · Member since 2008 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
3y
If the rental agreements are clear, along with your management agreement, you should file a complaint with the state office that regulates RE licensing. You should consider at least a brief review by a RE attorney also. If the PM did not follow the terms of a valid rental agreement they could well be liable. The tenant cannot be held liable if they were never informed of the charges when due.
If the rental agreements are clear, along with your management agreement, you should file a complaint with the state office that regulates RE licensing. You should consider at least a brief review by a RE attorney also. If the PM did not follow the terms of a valid rental agreement they could well be liable. The tenant cannot be held liable if they were never informed of the charges when due.
I don't think you need to have a license to be a PM in Maryland, but Russell and many others here would know better. Yes, the rental agreements are very clear. Thanks for your advice and I am going to consult an RE attorney.
If the rental agreements are clear, along with your management agreement, you should file a complaint with the state office that regulates RE licensing. You should consider at least a brief review by a RE attorney also. If the PM did not follow the terms of a valid rental agreement they could well be liable. The tenant cannot be held liable if they were never informed of the charges when due.
I don't think you need to have a license to be a PM in Maryland, but Russell and many others here would know better. Yes, the rental agreements are very clear. Thanks for your advice and I am going to consult an RE attorney.
No license needed to be a PM in Maryland.
You can not go back and collect uncollected rent or fees.
Your PM failed to charge the Tenant. The Tenant apparently paid what they were told to pay, so you can't go after them for something they weren't aware of and didn't agree to.
Your beef is with the PM. You could go after them, but are unlikely to collect anything.
If they are a Maryland REALTOR, then you can file a complaint with the commission. When they open the investigation, they will notify the property manager and ask for a response. That may be enough heat that the PM will reach out to you and negotiate a settlement to make the investigation go away. If not, then you'll have to decide to push forward with the complaint. If found guilty, they can be punished but it won't put any money in your pocket. If you want financial compensation then you need to take them to Small Claims Court.
If they are not a REALTOR, then your only recourse is to take them to court.
I can't speak for a judge and don't know all the details, but I suspect it could be a waste of time. The judge may decide you were partly to blame for letting it go on this long.
Knowing what I know, I would suggest walking away and dropping the issue.
Real Estate Agent · Houston, TX · Member since 2021 · 1k+ posts · 715 votes
3y
Collecting that rent now is a real estate win! It's great to have caught this issue early at such a low cost, as it could have potentially been much more costly if it had gone unnoticed. Every bit of preventative maintenance makes a huge difference in the long run.
The real estate market can be unpredictable, so having an eye on details like these can save you headaches and money down the line. Taking steps now to ensure your property investments are safe and secure will pay off in the future - making the small investment of time and effort today worth it.
Real Estate Agent · Houston, TX · Member since 2021 · 1k+ posts · 715 votes
3y
It's great that you caught the discrepancy in rent collection as a relatively small issue - it could have been much bigger if not caught! Real estate can be an unpredictable game, but with careful monitoring and attention to detail, you can make sure your investments stay in the black. Good work on catching this one!
The 4 leases set different dates for rent increases over the past two years, all 4 were signed by the tenants.
3 more leases require respective tenants to pay an annual pet fee.
Obviously this is the PM's failure to act. This PM is not a realtor. But I also failed to keep a copy of all the leases from the beginning to keep track of any increase/pet fee that these leases allow for.
Real Estate Agent · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2016 · 520 posts · 379 votes
3y
for pet fees their is good chance their is no recourse. If you were the owner before the tent increases which the tenant signed the lease with the rent increases with suffice notice per the local standards you can collect it. Keep in mind during covid rent increases were voided in places like Baltimore and Montgomery county. You also would need to prove your rental was licensed during the time the rent was due. If you can prove all that you should be good on just the past due rent portion. If they are delinquent it could be grounds for eviction. Keep in mind the lease would need to state something like if there is no rent increase options given for the end of the lease the lease will default to a certain price at the end of it.
Then my next question is, can I collect back rents and pet fees once I take over management?
No. That boat has already sailed. The tenants were never notified about any rent increase or about the pet fees. You're SOL on this one.
The only thing you can do now is move forward. If your tenants are now on M2M, you can send them notice of a rent increase going forward. Everything now is going forward, so forget about the past issues. Chalk it up to a hard lesson learned.
Your PM failed to charge the Tenant. The Tenant apparently paid what they were told to pay, so you can't go after them for something they weren't aware of and didn't agree to.
Your beef is with the PM. You could go after them, but are unlikely to collect anything.
If they are a Maryland REALTOR, then you can file a complaint with the commission. When they open the investigation, they will notify the property manager and ask for a response. That may be enough heat that the PM will reach out to you and negotiate a settlement to make the investigation go away. If not, then you'll have to decide to push forward with the complaint. If found guilty, they can be punished but it won't put any money in your pocket. If you want financial compensation then you need to take them to Small Claims Court.
If they are not a REALTOR, then your only recourse is to take them to court.
I can't speak for a judge and don't know all the details, but I suspect it could be a waste of time. The judge may decide you were partly to blame for letting it go on this long.
Knowing what I know, I would suggest walking away and dropping the issue.
This 100%. It is beyond frustrating that Maryland refuses to require PMs to hold any kind of license - it enables so many fly-by-night operators who aren't looking out for the landlords best interest. However, even though there isn't a specific Property Management license, PMs may still opt to obtain a real estate sales person license and submit themselves to MREC scrutiny. PMs who opt to obtain this license are signaling that they are professional operators and have nothing to hide.
To your original question, you're probably best off just cutting your losses on the back rent/pet fees, and making sure the current tenants are aware of what they owe going forward.
Investor · Boise, ID · Member since 2014 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
3y
It's not worth the effort- the chances of you seeing a dime are low and it will take lots of time and effort to find out. And you'll probably lose your tenants in the meantime- maybe that's not a big deal, but it's likely if you go down this road.
There are excellent property managers out there, sounds like you had a lazy one. If you go that route again, I'd make sure I start by looking at NARPM memeber PMs, they have a code of conduct and education requirements that typically put them in a position to be much better at their jobs.
Property Manager · Royal Oak, MI · Member since 2012 · 12k+ posts · 9k+ votes
3y
Did they communicate at all with you about the increases and fee? Perhaps asking you about increases and you ignored message or replied to keep the same?