How often to check on rented house

How often to check on rented house

Palo Alto, CA · Member since 2014 · 104 posts · 14 votes

I have a townhome that I have rented out for the past 2 years to 2 different tenant groups. All the renters have paid on time and I dont' have much contact with them except when something breaks down etc.. Do you guys go and check your house once in a while if everything is going ok. If you go, what do you check. 

The present set has complained about more mantainence issues than the renters last year. But not too much. /also they have had a broken water heater and refrigerator whereas the previous ones had no issues whatsoever. Maybe coincidence...

As an aside, I don't do any preventive mantainence on the house. Do you guys do it.

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Investor · Buffalo, NY · Member since 2016 · 668 posts · 209 votes
9y

Provide proper notice according to the lease and perform a quarterly fire/safety inspection that includes smoke/CO2 alarms, furnace filters, cracked windows, missing screens, broken locks or electrical or plumbing fixtures, holes in drywall, water/smoke stains on ceiling, missing wood trim or handrails, loose flooring/carpeting, general cleanliness etc. You are looking for early signs of trouble or neglect in your property. Rentals are all about preventative maintenance and durability. Do some active listening as you walk and best of luck with your investment.

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  • Investor · Buffalo, NY · Member since 2016 · 668 posts · 209 votes
    9y

    Provide proper notice according to the lease and perform a quarterly fire/safety inspection that includes smoke/CO2 alarms, furnace filters, cracked windows, missing screens, broken locks or electrical or plumbing fixtures, holes in drywall, water/smoke stains on ceiling, missing wood trim or handrails, loose flooring/carpeting, general cleanliness etc. You are looking for early signs of trouble or neglect in your property. Rentals are all about preventative maintenance and durability. Do some active listening as you walk and best of luck with your investment.

  • Rental Property Investor · Jacksonville, Florida Area · Member since 2016 · 106 posts · 48 votes
    9y

    We have a great a/c technician that tells us if there are any issues when he does his service work. We drive by our rental at least once a month, and have given our neighbors our phone number if they see any trouble developing. 

  • Member since 2016 · 13k+ posts · 12k+ votes
    9y

    Landlords should at minimum be doing quarterly full house inspections.

    More often if you are renting to section 8.

  • Palo Alto, CA · Member since 2014 · 104 posts · 14 votes
    9y

    Thank you guys. Appreciate the advice to a newbie.

    a) Do you guys give the tenants drain cleaners or something like that to put once a month to prevent plumbing issues. Is there anything else? I have seen most issues are plumbing, heaters and appliances (washer/dryer, dishwasher, fridge). Rest typically stays well maintained....

    b) If you signs of neglect when you visit, what do you do? Increase their rent. Tell them to shape up or else.

    I am going to put this quarterly visit thing in my rental agreement. Never done it before but excellent suggestion.

  • Rental Property Investor · Queen Creek, AZ · Member since 2013 · 368 posts · 191 votes
    9y

    Roy, great question, as @Account Closed give a neighbor your telephone number to call you if there are any issues. We also have our PM do a quarterly smoke detector battery replacement which gives us access to do a brief walk-through. We also drive by the property when we are in the area

  • Member since 2016 · 13k+ posts · 12k+ votes
    9y

    In the case where the neglect is damage you have a contractor repair the damage and bill the tenant. That would apply to anything that is not normal ware and tear.

    You need to differentiate between normal ware and tear and actual damage.

    Easiest way to deal with tenants is to have them all on M2M leases to allow you to terminate those that are not working out. 

    Some of your suggestions, raise the rent, are in violation of your state regulations.

  • Professional · San Francisco, CA · Member since 2016 · 124 posts · 31 votes
    9y

    I’m glad that the necessity of notice is mentioned there. If the you want to come over, you usually needs to give you notice, typically 24 to 48 hours. And many local jurisdictions require landlords to come over only at reasonable times.

    I think that one inspection per month would be more then enough. 

  • Minneapolis, MN · Member since 2013 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    9y

    monthly inspecton is simply stupid, you should not need to enter every month to see what's going on.

    At the most quarterly, furnace filter, in winter, screens, in spring, AC unit in summer and Storms in Fall are good reasons to get in,, besides smoke detectors which are annual city required inspection to do .

    I wouldn't want to be bothered by a owner every month if I were a renter.

    Yes at the time you do see something not being properly taken care of or used, you give them instructions, if it'd damaged fix repair, and charge them if it's their fault.

    If they are abusing the property give them notice that misuse won't be tolerated and could be reason for non-renewal... this is where pets are big items..and those tenants need more directions. if your not smart enough to go NO pets.. Personally I don't do pets. and strictly Month to month terms. 

  • Buy & Hold Owner · Redlands, CA · Member since 2015 · 5k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    9y

    Agree with Deanna; The tenant(s) are entitled, by virtue of the lease, to "quiet enjoyment" and peeking over the fence or conjuring up a lame excuse to get entry too frequently creates a nuisance.  You wouldn't put up with it so don't expect them to either.  Great way to induce move-outs imo.

    Once a year there's a Fire Marshal inspection and your screening process should have allowed this inspection to be sufficient.  Of course, if you're in a war-zone class D environment, you may desire more, but you should have chosen more wisely.

  • Real Estate Broker · IL · Member since 2016 · 284 posts · 178 votes
    9y

    Do you put in the rental agreement you will call/set up a time to inspect the property every 6 months or how do you go about doing that ?

    Do you just put something along these lines in the contract, you will be looking at the, smoke/CO2 alarms, furnace filters, cracked windows, missing screens, broken locks or electrical or plumbing fixtures, holes in drywall, water/smoke stains on ceiling, missing wood trim or handrails, loose flooring/carpeting, general cleanliness etc..(Took this from @Account Closed)

  • Real Estate Agent · Columbia, TN · Member since 2016 · 34 posts · 16 votes
    9y
    Inspecting the property once a month is serious over kill. I inspect mine twice a year. The HVAC guy is out there once a year, as well as pest control, so that's 4 inspections per year. I have tenants at one property who have been there four years. They pay rent promptly, and rarely ever call about any issues. If I saw anything out of the ordinary, I would go to more frequent inspections
  • Real Estate Agent · Virginia Beach, VA · Member since 2012 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    9y

    Tenants and even property managers do not look at your investment with the same eye that you would, so when you are there for any repair, look around, walk the perimeter, see if outdoor heat pumps are clear or covered in weeds, peak under sink cabinets to check for water leaks, look around tubs for caulk issues, check for beginning signs of rot around exterior doors, porch posts, loose fence pickets, check dryer vents, any trees leaning on your roof or fences.  Catching minor issues before they become huge problems can save you lots of money and prolong the life of your systems.   You don't need to do it often, but we've found less than once a year is not a good idea.  We once found the tenant had moved the gutter drain behind the heat pump pad so he could mow easier.  He eroded the earth under the pad to where it was failing, about to fall in and take the whole unit down with it.  He never noticed it.  The property manager never noticed it.   They don't notice things until it inconveniences them or is so evident that it's become a problem.    

  • Minneapolis, MN · Member since 2013 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    9y

    I think the key here is "YES you do check on your property", It depends on who's using it and how many people are there, as to expected wear and tear, and nuisance issues, and just plain property maintenance exterior, grounds or building work, and weather. It's your property and you want to make sure it's maintained.

    But the need to actually enter and disturb a tenant is kept to a minimum.

  • Real Estate Broker · Hugo, MN · Member since 2016 · 688 posts · 596 votes
    9y
    We do a monthly drive by just to make sure the exterior is in good order. We document with photos. Other than that once every 6 months to check fire equipment caulk and other maintenance issues. Tenants will remove violations once we give them notice then resume after the inspection, but that is the game that is played. On move out we do a 60 day, 1 week, and post move out.
  • Palo Alto, CA · Member since 2014 · 104 posts · 14 votes
    9y

    Thank you all. I created a list for tenants to follow since they may not do any mantainence. I plan to post it in the house for the present and future tenants to follow. Please tell me if you think this is good or bad idea.

    I hope the formatting comes out ok

    November 1.

    • Clean range hood filter. (landlord to do it)
    • Take out the filter, wash it with soap, wipe it dry and put it back
    • Change the heater filter (landlord to do it)
    • Check exhaust from the dryer. (landlord to do it). Make sure exhaust smells nice while the dryer is running

    Every 1st day of Feb, May, August, November

    • Put in the drain enzymes into all sinks per directions. Do it at night and don’t use the sinks and bathtubs overnight.

    Every 1st day of month

    • Check any leaks around the water pipes. (tenant to do it). Inform landloard

    Every day/use

    • Clean lint from the dryer
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    Rock Star Extraordinaire · Northeast, TN · Member since 2015 · 10k+ posts · 16k+ votes
    9y

    Roy,

    Not bad but unlikely most tenants will remember you provided it in a couple of weeks, much less follow it. We provide info sheets with all units that has important utility, emergency cut-off, and other info, and add some miscellaneous info like filter changes and the like. 

    Someone will do a drive-by of each home at least once every few months. Our HVAC servicer checks on the units twice a year, and will let us know of anything seriously concerning. We do informal inspections if anyone goes to the home for any repair or inspection at the tenant's request. Any time someone is inside the house, a quick look is done at all water appurtenances (washer, sinks, etc) to check for leaks or evidence of past leaks, and will look up in the sky at all ceilings for any evidence of roof leaks (stains on ceilings). That generally covers most issues, and we screen pretty hard so the selection of tenants goes a long way towards having responsible people that keep the homes nice and report problems promptly. 

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