Two tenants, protection order, one left, one wants to stay.

Two tenants, protection order, one left, one wants to stay.

Greenwood, IN · Member since 2013 · 346 posts · 93 votes

This is a first for me. I have a couple who was living in one of my units with their kids. I got a call from the woman tenant this morning, indicating that the male tenant, hit her, and she filed a protection order this morning. The male did not sleep there this weekend, but still has keys.

The female tenant, wants to continue to stay there with her kids. But the man is still legally on the lease, and has a right to half of the security deposit.

In this situation, what are my options, or in your opinion the best pathway forward.

other than this, they have been good tenants, who paid on time and were clean.

I'd like to keep her there with her children.

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Member since 2016 · 13k+ posts · 12k+ votes
8y

The deposit stays with you and they work it out between them. She will owe him money.

If she qualifies under your screening criteria to manage the place on her own then she can stay otherwise they both go.

I personally would get rid of them both since this situation will likely be ongoing drama.

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  • Salt Lake City, UT · Member since 2016 · 199 posts · 190 votes
    8y

    The security deposit is for the apartment not the individuals on the lease.  It is up to the tenants how the security deposit is split only upon move out and it is returned to them.

  • Member since 2016 · 13k+ posts · 12k+ votes
    8y

    The deposit stays with you and they work it out between them. She will owe him money.

    If she qualifies under your screening criteria to manage the place on her own then she can stay otherwise they both go.

    I personally would get rid of them both since this situation will likely be ongoing drama.

  • Severna Park, MD · Member since 2013 · 7k+ posts · 7k+ votes
    8y

    As long as the rent gets paid , the rest is of no concern of yours .  Dont get involved with family issues

  • Real Estate Agent · Southington, CT · Member since 2008 · 5k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    8y

    Could not agree more with what others have said. This is an issue between them and you have nothing to do with their marital issues. Stay out of it and if it impacts their ability to pay rent, go through the eviction process like you would normally.

  • Greenwood, IN · Member since 2013 · 346 posts · 93 votes
    8y

    Ok. But the male tenant is still on the current lease.

    Does he still not have a legal right to be there, unless that is amended, and a lease signed only with her?

  • Cedar Falls, IA · Member since 2017 · 32 posts · 13 votes
    8y

    Check your state laws, as sometimes victims of domestic violence are afforded special protections and rights. Especially prior to evicting, as was previously mentioned. Additionally, often times the order or protection will prohibit the defendant from being at or around the protected party's residence. Both of these factors will supercede any language in your lease. 

    As to the deposit, if/when you have to return it, give it in a check stating "Mr AND Mrs Tenant." The bank should, but probably won't, require both parties to sign off on the check to cash it. It'll be out of your hands at that point.

  • Greenwood, IN · Member since 2013 · 346 posts · 93 votes
    8y

    Thank you for all the input.  

    One last question, the tenant, wants to change the locks on the unit.

    My question, should she pay for it? And am I able to change the locks anyways, since the male tenant, is still on the lease?

    Obviously I don't want to be liable for locking him out of the unit, but i also want to ensure my tenants safety.

  • Severna Park, MD · Member since 2013 · 7k+ posts · 7k+ votes
    8y

    Changing the locks , yes you can , BUT both tenants are entitled to keys . They are both on the lease . Now if she pays someone to change the locks and gives you a set of keys , to the best of your knowledge she has also given him a set . 

    Years ago when I was in my 20's a neighbors down the street were going thru a break up . ( no protective order in place ) She changed the locks and wouldnt let him in . So he started throwing bricks thru the windows of the house ( they owned the house )  She called the cops , once they showed up the cops asked him to stop . The husband asked " is it against the law to break my own windows ?" The cop said " Well no it isnt "  The guy said " I will leave in 5 minutes , I only have 3 more windows to go "   Cop waited , the guy left and then the cop arrested him for having no insurance and the wrong tags on his truck .  As far as the windows , it didnt help when she got a protective order 

  • Colleen F.Pro Member
    Investor · Narragansett, RI · Member since 2013 · 8k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    8y
    A protective order may entitle them to special protections depending on the state so check how that goes for your state. If she wants the locks changed I would do it on her. I would also leave the keys at the house after changing. Let them manage it. It is not up to you to get all tenants keys. If there is a valid protection order he cant enter the property anyways and you probably wouldnt want him to. After that if they want a lease change qualify the new renter. Send identical but seperate communications for everything, you dont want to be involved in violations of a no contact order.
  • Contractor · Greenfield, MA · Member since 2017 · 107 posts · 99 votes
    8y
    In Massachusetts the deal is usually the defendant (husband in this case) isn't allowed contact and must stay away within a certain amount of feet, something like 1000 feet. many times the judge has the defendant surrender keys but It all depends on what the judge says. like others have said it really has nothing to do with you and she may even have protection from you throwing her out. The security deposit is up.to the court not you. I'd stay out of it
  • Attorney · Attleboro, MA · Member since 2015 · 412 posts · 165 votes
    8y

    If there is still time on the lease, I would not change the lease to just her just yet. They may get back together.

    As long as the rent gets paid at the moment I would not do anything to get involved. If the rent stops I would check with a landlord tenant attorney in your area. There may be certain rules and notice that have to be sent to him at another address etc. She may qualify for emergency housing/section * help with the rent without him around and may actually need a pending lawsuit to get the funds and be able to get you paid.

    Bottom line, tread softly for the moment but seek a competent attorney in your area (and be sure to ask if they have any experience in this type of situation, not just a standard eviction)

  • Investor · Louisville, KY · Member since 2017 · 199 posts · 253 votes
    8y
    Are you in Indiana? If so, please read the Indiana tenant laws. Domestic Violence victims have rights and one of the rights includes having the landlord change the locks at the landlords cost. Now, I am not a lawyer, so the fact that the aggressor is on the lease may complicate things. I would contact the housing authority in the community the property is in or contact a lawyer today.
  • Ryan DavidsonPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Brook, IN · Member since 2017 · 69 posts · 12 votes
    8y
    Yes, I would check your local laws. I was just reading about Indiana. I believe there is a tenant right to have the locks replaced for security reasons. Probably on your dime. Do some research and talk with attorney to be safe.
  • Ryan DavidsonPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Brook, IN · Member since 2017 · 69 posts · 12 votes
    8y
    https://www.in.gov/isdh/files/Tenants_Rights_doc.pdf
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