Tenant said he'd be naked when I'm doing tours for new tenants
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Account Closed
replied about 1 year agoFore him a text/ email and ask if he was serious when he told you on __/___/2020 that he intended to disrupt showings by being naked. Grab a call recorder app for your phone, but push all communications to written when possible. If you receive a call to your cell at an inconvenient time let them know you’ll need to return and then document well when you do.
He likely won’t rely to the text, but you’ll get your concern on record.
Greg M.
Rental Property Investor from Los Angeles, CA
replied about 1 year ago
Originally posted by @Bill Haldenby :@Greg M. I don't think there are any
as about your attire within your home though
Indecent exposure is usually defined as deliberately exposing your genitals to others in a public* place for sexual gratification or to cause offense. The tenant would have a defense if he had a reasonable expectation of privacy. However, the landlord outright notified him that he will be entering the property with other people. The act of being naked was 100% to cause offense.
*Public being a place others might see you. The tenant clearly knows that others will see him. He was told that the landlord would be coming over and bringing potential renters.
Depending on where the property is, the tenant is looking at anything from a cop telling him to knock it off, up to prison time and registering on the sex offenders list for life.
Just do a quick search for people convicted of indecent exposure while in their own homes. Lots of results!
Jack B.
Rental Property Investor from Seattle, WA
replied about 1 year ago
I basically read them the riot act. Including the jail for indecent exposure followed by eviction of all four of these morons. One idiot called me to apologize. Told him he better get the other moron under control before I do come evict them all. RIDICULOUS. "I don't want you to come down here tonight" followed by "We'll I'll be naked" after I tell him he doesn't have a choice...after I left $500 a month rent on the table for them for 3 years and didn't do any inspections...they want to give me guff over a tour....
Jack B.
Rental Property Investor from Seattle, WA
replied about 1 year ago
And I got an apology from both of them and assurance of cooperation.
Jack B.
Rental Property Investor from Seattle, WA
replied about 1 year ago
Originally posted by @Greg M. :Originally posted by @Bill Haldenby:@Greg M. I don't think there are any
as about your attire within your home though
Indecent exposure is usually defined as deliberately exposing your genitals to others in a public* place for sexual gratification or to cause offense. The tenant would have a defense if he had a reasonable expectation of privacy. However, the landlord outright notified him that he will be entering the property with other people. The act of being naked was 100% to cause offense.
*Public being a place others might see you. The tenant clearly knows that others will see him. He was told that the landlord would be coming over and bringing potential renters.
Depending on where the property is, the tenant is looking at anything from a cop telling him to knock it off, up to prison time and registering on the sex offenders list for life.
Just do a quick search for people convicted of indecent exposure while in their own homes. Lots of results!
Very good post. I did a search and got tons of results. Which matches my earlier post that he KNEW I was coming, I gave 2 days not just 1 day notice as required. He first told me he didn't want me to come down. Then when I told him I already have an appointment and he doesn't have a choice, he said well I'll be naked....at 6 PM on a Friday night...not exactly reasonable of him.
SO he knows I'm coming....
He didn't want me to come....
Then he tells me he will be naked to discourage me/cause offence if I come...
Straight to jail idiot....
Corey Meyer
Investor from Big Sky, Montana
replied about 1 year ago
Yes, this is awesome!
Andy Mirza
Lender from Ladera Ranch, CA
replied about 1 year ago
6 pm on a Friday night, on Valentine's day? Sounds like a power trip and just plain rude to me. They're vacating at the end of March?? Maybe it's just me but we typically wait till the tenant moves out and we get the place rent ready before we do any showings.
Account Closed
replied about 1 year agoThat system sounds like a good way to unnecessarily forego a month’s rent. Notice -> immediate inspection for damages/ required repairs -> immediate repairs to make rent ready -> move out (last day of month at noon) -> exit walk forms itemizing deposit deductions for repairs listed -> cleaning crew in -> new tenant moves in to ready unit (1st at noon).
Jack B.
Rental Property Investor from Seattle, WA
replied about 1 year ago
Originally posted by @Andy Mirza :6 pm on a Friday night, on Valentine's day? Sounds like a power trip and just plain rude to me. They're vacating at the end of March?? Maybe it's just me but we typically wait till the tenant moves out and we get the place rent ready before we do any showings.
You're hilarious! Valentines day isn't a public holiday. It was a tour for 6 PM not 2 AM or 11 PM. Most people go out for dinner on valentines day at 6 PM, not tell their landlord they can't come down then say well I will be naked on my couch at 6 PM. Is that a normal thing a normal person does? NOPE. It's a reasonable tour time. My focus is on keeping my rental occupied, not romantic idiocy for four room mates who each will have some conflict and a big mouth. I gave them twice the required notice and only hours before the tour, despite my 2 day notice the one guy complains and says I can't come down, then when I tell him it doesn't work like that he doesn't have a choice, he says he will be naked and you tell ME I'm on a power trip????? What a joke...Get a clue, your tiny little portfolio of 2.1 million for 19 properties makes you God? Just four properties I own here are worth more than that lol.
You go ahead and forego a months rent for the small town you operate in to accommodate unreasonable requests, if this is how poorly you manage I pity the people who crowd fund with you and your partner. Despite having 2 days to say something, they waited until the last minute. And I purposely booked it two days out so that I had a chance to maybe get more tours into the same showing so as to minimize the impact on them. Instead the prospect found another unit during that time and canceled when I tried to confirm the appointment, letting me know right before the appointment...from now on I will book the tour within 24 hours of notice. Grow some critical thinking skills dude, seriously not surprised a person from small town Cali has such a bleeding heart for "Valentines day and respecting tenants privacy", give me a break....they agreed to the terms and by law I'm allowed to show the unit. Telling me that he will be naked on the couch at 6 PM to prevent me from doing a tour and you're attacking me???? WOW, what a joke. You want privacy for them, buy them a house and give it to them.....your cheap little 110K houses or whatever you paid for them when you bought them, probably half that should be easy for you to buy for them. I'll send them your way....
And all this after I gave them 18K of discounted rent over 3 years and no inspections....yet I'm supposed to let them do whatever they want too. What a troll, it's people like you that have turned Cali and this country into a cesspool...