Rent and Covid-19-our letter to tenants

Rent and Covid-19-our letter to tenants

Investor · Akron, OH · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 4k+ votes

Below is the email that we just sent out to our tenants. Keep in mind, most people don't pay rent just because they fear eviction...Most people pay their rent because they are honest and they honor their contracts. Your tenants chose to make your property their home because the liked it and thought it was a good fit for themselves and their family. Most people (in the USA) understand that landlords are in business to make a profit and tenants are (by-and-large) ok with that so long as they get good value for their money. Most of my low income tenants are hard workers that don't want a handout -- many are proud of the fact that they can and are making it in market rate housing without government assistance!  I still at this point think most of our tenants that can pay rent will pay rent. We'll see. I thought I'd share our letter. Do you think I'm a pollyanna?

date

Dear tenant firstname

While this unprecedented national emergency has upended life as we know it, I hope this letter finds you still healthy and financially secure. We at {our company} are thankfully still healthy but we have already had three tenants report job loss and several others who have experienced reductions in work hours.

We want you all to know that we will work with any tenants who find themselves unemployed as a result of the Covid-19 (Coronavirus) disease and (God forbid) any tenants who should contract the disease and must self-quarantine or be hospitalized without adequate income to cover their rent. We are asking those who are out of work and those who have had their hours cut to IMMEDIATELY apply for unemployment benefits (which are now available with no waiting period), and then to call us right away to work out a reduced and/or deferred payment plan so that we are able to plan how to pay our bills. We, like so many others, will be dealing with a reduced income for the duration of this crisis.

We are really counting on those of you who will continue to receive regular checks from Uncle Sam (SS, SSI, or SSDI) and those of you who are in industries where you are able to maintain your employment, to PLEASE continue to pay your rent as promptly as possible so that we will be able to pay our bills and our mortgages while we work with your less fortunate neighbors.

As you may have heard, evictions and HUD foreclosures are currently on hold. This hold applies only to evictions for non-payment; however, court hearings are still available in cases of domestic violence or other situations where there is a danger to other residents or household members (included just in case you know someone that needs this information).

At some point, this crisis will end and at that time unpaid bills and mortgages will still be due. With our commercial loans, late mortgage payments can mean reductions in credit available, punishing interest rates, a called loan, a forced sale, or even foreclosure when civil courts are once again functioning. Because none of us yet knows what assistance will be available and in what form, we will need for tenants facing loss of income and needing reduced or deferred rent payments due to COVID19 to provide us with documentation. If this emergency drags on (as we fear that it may) and we are overwhelmed we will need that information to be able to document our situation should we attempt to seek a disaster loan from the small business administration (the only direct small business assistance being discussed at this time).

We are watching the situation closely and we are seriously hoping to see some concrete financial help from the government very SOON. It is our belief that the best way congress can help small businesses like ours that must continue providing service throughout this crisis with significantly reduced income is to provide robust financial assistance to our fellow citizens that have lost their jobs so that they are able to pay their rent and other bills throughout this crisis.

There are several plans in news:

  • Congress is working on a stimulus package: Democrats want to provide increased (full salary replacement) unemployment benefits and expanded medicaid to the unemployed and paid sick leave to those who have jobs but are quarantined as a result of the virus for the duration of the crisis. Republicans want to provide one or two cash payments of $600-1200 directly to taxpayers that earned $2500- $99000/year in taxable income. They are working on a compromise now.
  • Also, note that Dominion (gas) and First Energy (electric), have suspended utility shut-offs during the COVID19 crisis; And you can be sure that we need your payment more than they do ;)
  • If you are out of work, you can apply for rent assistance from the Catholic Charities DIocese of Cleveland (CCDOC) ###-###-####. These are usually one time grants, not loans, and do not need to be repaid.
  • The deadline for filing tax returns has been extended to July 15; however, if you believe you are due a refund, you can and should file ASAP to take advantage of this additional income.

To those of you who are caregivers, medical personnel, and retail workers who are by necessity still out there dealing with the public -- you are the heros in this crisis and we want to recognize the risk you are taking by getting up and going to work each day.

And should any of our residents be required to self-quarantine because you contract the virus or have had contact with an infectious person, don’t hesitate to CALL us for help in obtaining groceries and supplies.

Try to stay well.

Sincerely,

{Jill and family}

P.S. One minor thing… we’re glad everyone is using disinfecting wipes like crazy but please, please don’t flush wipes!!! Even ‘flushable’ wipes do bad things to the drains. Ty.

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Investor · Tx, GA · Member since 2019 · 313 posts · 337 votes
6y

Some of you guys are being excessively harsh on Jill, she was just being transparent and straight forward with the letter about a harsh reality we are all facing. That is a much better approach to collect payments then the silent but deadly approach in times of crisis (when the eviction process will not be smooth or available at all). 

Whether or not all the tenants read it through doesn't matter, if it helps recover some money from some places that otherwise wouldn't be there it's done it's job. 

Good job Jill! 

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  • Investor · Akron, OH · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    6y

    @Account Closed  LOL, I new we'd disagree on this. Do you have any tenants? Have you communicated with them at all regarding Covid-19?

    I'm curious.

  • Peoria, IL · Member since 2013 · 967 posts · 383 votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Jill F.:

    Below is the email that we just sent out to our tenants. Keep in mind, most people don't pay rent just because they fear eviction...Most people pay their rent because they are honest and they honor their contracts. Your tenants chose to make your property their home because the liked it and thought it was a good fit for themselves and their family. Most people (in the USA) understand that landlords are in business to make a profit and tenants are (by-and-large) ok with that so long as they get good value for their money. Most of my low income tenants are hard workers that don't want a handout -- many are proud of the fact that they can and are making it in market rate housing without government assistance!  I still at this point think most of our tenants that can pay rent will pay rent. We'll see. I thought I'd share our letter. Do you think I'm a pollyanna?

    date

    Dear tenant firstname

    While this unprecedented national emergency has upended life as we know it, I hope this letter finds you still healthy and financially secure. We at {our company} are thankfully still healthy but we have already had three tenants report job loss and several others who have experienced reductions in work hours.

    We want you all to know that we will work with any tenants who find themselves unemployed as a result of the Covid-19 (Coronavirus) disease and (God forbid) any tenants who should contract the disease and must self-quarantine or be hospitalized without adequate income to cover their rent. We are asking those who are out of work and those who have had their hours cut to IMMEDIATELY apply for unemployment benefits (which are now available with no waiting period), and then to call us right away to work out a reduced and/or deferred payment plan so that we are able to plan how to pay our bills. We, like so many others, will be dealing with a reduced income for the duration of this crisis.

    We are really counting on those of you who will continue to receive regular checks from Uncle Sam (SS, SSI, or SSDI) and those of you who are in industries where you are able to maintain your employment, to PLEASE continue to pay your rent as promptly as possible so that we will be able to pay our bills and our mortgages while we work with your less fortunate neighbors.

    As you may have heard, evictions and HUD foreclosures are currently on hold. This hold applies only to evictions for non-payment; however, court hearings are still available in cases of domestic violence or other situations where there is a danger to other residents or household members (included just in case you know someone that needs this information).

    At some point, this crisis will end and at that time unpaid bills and mortgages will still be due. With our commercial loans, late mortgage payments can mean reductions in credit available, punishing interest rates, a called loan, a forced sale, or even foreclosure when civil courts are once again functioning. Because none of us yet knows what assistance will be available and in what form, we will need for tenants facing loss of income and needing reduced or deferred rent payments due to COVID19 to provide us with documentation. If this emergency drags on (as we fear that it may) and we are overwhelmed we will need that information to be able to document our situation should we attempt to seek a disaster loan from the small business administration (the only direct small business assistance being discussed at this time).

    We are watching the situation closely and we are seriously hoping to see some concrete financial help from the government very SOON. It is our belief that the best way congress can help small businesses like ours that must continue providing service throughout this crisis with significantly reduced income is to provide robust financial assistance to our fellow citizens that have lost their jobs so that they are able to pay their rent and other bills throughout this crisis.

    There are several plans in news:

    • Congress is working on a stimulus package: Democrats want to provide increased (full salary replacement) unemployment benefits and expanded medicaid to the unemployed and paid sick leave to those who have jobs but are quarantined as a result of the virus for the duration of the crisis. Republicans want to provide one or two cash payments of $600-1200 directly to taxpayers that earned $2500- $99000/year in taxable income. They are working on a compromise now.
    • Also, note that Dominion (gas) and First Energy (electric), have suspended utility shut-offs during the COVID19 crisis; And you can be sure that we need your payment more than they do ;)
    • If you are out of work, you can apply for rent assistance from the Catholic Charities DIocese of Cleveland (CCDOC) ###-###-####. These are usually one time grants, not loans, and do not need to be repaid.
    • The deadline for filing tax returns has been extended to July 15; however, if you believe you are due a refund, you can and should file ASAP to take advantage of this additional income.

    To those of you who are caregivers, medical personnel, and retail workers who are by necessity still out there dealing with the public -- you are the heros in this crisis and we want to recognize the risk you are taking by getting up and going to work each day.

    And should any of our residents be required to self-quarantine because you contract the virus or have had contact with an infectious person, don’t hesitate to CALL us for help in obtaining groceries and supplies.

    Try to stay well.

    Sincerely,

    {Jill and family}

    P.S. One minor thing… we’re glad everyone is using disinfecting wipes like crazy but please, please don’t flush wipes!!! Even ‘flushable’ wipes do bad things to the drains. Ty.

     thanks for this forwarding to renters:

    P.S. One minor thing… we’re glad everyone is using disinfecting wipes like crazy but please, please don’t flush wipes!!! Even ‘flushable’ wipes do bad things to the drains. Ty.

  • Investor · Akron, OH · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    6y

    Hmmpf. beyond belief? Nope. That statement is a FACT. And I want my tenants to be aware of that fact. I think it's important that tenants understand that when this is over unpaid bills will still be due... their unpaid bills AND my upaid bills...and that unpaid bills have consequences for me just like for them.

     @Account Closed 

    'You People are too emotionally involved?' What does that even mean?
    What exactly do you see both sides of?

    BTW, Based on your posting history, I'm really glad to hear that your properties are under management.

  • Peoria, IL · Member since 2013 · 967 posts · 383 votes
    6y
  • Investor · Akron, OH · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    6y

    @Kirk R. Haha! That's what I needed.

  • Member since 2020 · 7 posts · 0 votes
    6y

    @Jill F.  I have a tenant who moved out 2 weeks ago-ish? this tenant gave me a 10 day notice to move out and moved out without paying March’s rent and her lease ends April. This was all before Coronavirus was declared a pandemic and before people even cared about it as much as they do now. I told her to pay for March and April before leaving and she said she’ll pay for March at the end of the month but she won’t pay for april. I told her then I’ll have a collection agency deal with you. A few days ago she messaged me saying she won’t pay for April because of corona.. new excuse?

    What do you think? What should I do?

  • Realtor · Oakland, CA and a Real Estate Investor with Multi-Family Units and a Self Storage Facility · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    6y

    Your letter is well intentioned, but most tenants will not read a letter that long. Less is more and generally speaking the longer the letter is the more “loopholes” someone can use.



    No disrespect but if most of your units had Section8 tenants in them you probably would not be as worried about being able to pay that mortgage note. I know section 8 is not glamorous but the rental income is guaranteed and know politician .... Republican or Democrat wants to be known as the person that shut down an affordable housing program on their watch.

  • Investor · Akron, OH · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    6y

    @Brian Garlington Haha yeah, it's probably too long. I actually did shorten it some... I hope that our tenants appreciate the thought anyway. 

    Certainly no disrespect taken, I do actually plan to offer my (7) units currently under renovation on the section 8 website as a mitigation strategy for a prolonged recession (which I hope to God we don't have). My husband and I have talked about section 8 for a while but we've always rented so quickly that he didn't want to wait through their process. Every time I put a unit on the market we get a bunch of section 8 calls but up until this situation we've usually gotten a reservation payment or signed lease in less than a week so we never really looked into it. Nicer rentals are pretty hard to come by in our area. I'm pretty worried about how things are going to go this time and if we'll even be able to show properties and we expect to have 4-5 newly renovated units ready to put on the market in the next 6 weeks.

  • Investor · Akron, OH · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Ana Maschke:

    @Jill F.  I have a tenant who moved out 2 weeks ago-ish? this tenant gave me a 10 day notice to move out and moved out without paying March’s rent and her lease ends April. This was all before Coronavirus was declared a pandemic and before people even cared about it as much as they do now. I told her to pay for March and April before leaving and she said she’ll pay for March at the end of the month but she won’t pay for april. I told her then I’ll have a collection agency deal with you. A few days ago she messaged me saying she won’t pay for April because of corona.. new excuse?

    What do you think? What should I do?

    Here in Ohio, Landlords have a duty to mitigate when a tenant breaches the lease.  The most important thing is to get back possession of the unit and you have that. I'd get it rented asap and the probably bill her for the balance. Where are you located? Did she leave the unit in decent condition? Do you have a security deposit for her?

  • Rental Property Investor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2017 · 2k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    6y

    Sorry to be so harsh, but you seem to be under the misguided impression that your tenants give a **** about you. 

    I think it is crazy that you are telling tenants that can pay that they should pay ASAP so that those tenants that aren't paying will be OK. And not to worry, evictions are on hold. If I'm a tenant able to pay, but worried about my job, I just might not pay and keep the cash until things settle down. What is my downside, I can't be evicted per the landlord!

    I also think it is inappropriate to discuss your finances with your tenants. 

  • Investor · Akron, OH · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Greg M.:

    Sorry to be so harsh, but you seem to be under the misguided impression that your tenants give a **** about you. 

    I think it is crazy that you are telling tenants that can pay that they should pay ASAP so that those tenants that aren't paying will be OK. And not to worry, evictions are on hold. If I'm a tenant able to pay, but worried about my job, I just might not pay and keep the cash until things settle down. What is my downside, I can't be evicted per the landlord!

    I also think it is inappropriate to discuss your finances with your tenants. 

    We didn't discuss our finances with our tenants. We told our tenants that just like them we too face consequences for non-payment of our bills.  Our point was to remind people, *without* the need to make any threats about what might happen if they fail to pay, that failing to pay the bills has consequences for us (just like it does for them).  This is a statement of fact, not a personal disclosure or plea for sympathy.

    The fact that most Ohio courts are not hearing eviction cases for
    non-payment has been all over the news. This has prompted tenants to ask
    if rent is on hold. The answer of course is NOoo

    That letter notifies our tenants that if they lose their job they will need to document their job loss if they are not able to pay full rent that they'll need to call and work out a payment plan and it notifies  tenants that still have jobs that they will need to continue to pay their rent on-time.

    I would hope that most **decent** people care their neighbors who are out of work enough to be glad that we are working with affected tenants so that they won't be kicked out into the street as soon as possible when they lost their jobs as a result of a pandemic. Geezy pete. Your attitude towards your fellow human beings is what is harsh. 

  • Real Estate Investor · Williamson County, TX · Member since 2011 · 1k+ posts · 961 votes
    6y

    @Jill F. I think your letter is well worded and appreciate your sharing it. I just have a handful of units so will not be sending out letters but I would use yours as a template if I were.

    I agree that tenants don’t care about landlords’ financial obligations but I think that is precisely why you might want to remind them that the rent does not go directly in your pocket but mainly into the bank’s pocket...or as in Texas, the property tax assessors pocket.

  • Investor · Tx, GA · Member since 2019 · 313 posts · 337 votes
    6y

    Some of you guys are being excessively harsh on Jill, she was just being transparent and straight forward with the letter about a harsh reality we are all facing. That is a much better approach to collect payments then the silent but deadly approach in times of crisis (when the eviction process will not be smooth or available at all). 

    Whether or not all the tenants read it through doesn't matter, if it helps recover some money from some places that otherwise wouldn't be there it's done it's job. 

    Good job Jill! 

  • New to Real Estate · Sacramento, CA · Member since 2015 · 104 posts · 33 votes
    6y

    It's interesting how much negative feedback this is getting. I like some of the thinking and approach here. I think we are going to keep ours shorter or let them come to us, but I appreciate you sharing it!

  • Shawnee Mission, KS · Member since 2016 · 719 posts · 313 votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Kirk R.:

    I had a clogged toilet from a young renter trying to flush wipes like this down the toilet I had to clean the line out cost a little over $200 to get it done.This was a few year back .

  • Peoria, IL · Member since 2013 · 967 posts · 383 votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Ana Maschke:

    @Jill F.  I have a tenant who moved out 2 weeks ago-ish? this tenant gave me a 10 day notice to move out and moved out without paying March’s rent and her lease ends April. This was all before Coronavirus was declared a pandemic and before people even cared about it as much as they do now. I told her to pay for March and April before leaving and she said she’ll pay for March at the end of the month but she won’t pay for april. I told her then I’ll have a collection agency deal with you. A few days ago she messaged me saying she won’t pay for April because of corona.. new excuse?

    What do you think? What should I do?

     i think it's money you won't get & probably should press upward & onward.  Do you have a deposit you can maybe keep? 

  • Rental Property Investor · Orlando, FL · Member since 2018 · 301 posts · 354 votes
    6y

    TLDR

  • Specialist · Easton, PA · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    6y

    @Jill F.

    I don’t believe I’ll be sending anything out like this. They are adults and hopefully realize there is help available, as it’s been all over the news. I will gladly work with my tenants if/when they approach me with a hardship. They don’t care about my mortgage payments, they will be doing whatever they need to do to survive and keep their children healthy and fed. All I can do is hope they pay whatever they can in this awful time we are going thru, and they will realize while there are no evictions going on right now, there will be eventually. So if they wanna stay, they will pay. And when the wave of evictions hits, we all need to be so careful about who we put into our properties.

    Stay safe everyone!

  • Investor · Akron, OH · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    6y

    @Carrie K. I'm not really surprised by the negativity.

    But here's the thing: I've had zero turnover in my "D" neighbohood, "C" level properties in the last 18 months. 5 of my 8 units in that neighborhood are filled with folks that have been there for over three years, 4 of my 8 tenants have BS degrees.  I have one person staying there waiting for me to get a larger property ready rather than moving elsewhere. So at this point I'm going to keep doing exactly what I'm doing because, being honest, and treating people fairly, and transparently has thus far, been working for me in what is consider to be a tough asset class to run. And I would challenge the "haters" to put their record up against mine.

    This an unprecedented and very difficult situation for our country and I guess I'm going to find out if I'm right or way off base about how people will behave when TSHTF.

    I am particularly nervous because I just purchased 8 new duplexes in a "C/C-" neighborhood on the last day of January and I don't know these tenants well and didn't personally screen them but I will **STILLL** be surprised if any of my tenants chooses to just quit paying rent because evictions are not possible.

    I fully expect most people to do the right thing and I plan to do the right thing which is: to work with people based on their personal situation in this time of national crisis.

    I do think TLDR and writing in "loopholes" are both valid criticisms of the letter but you know, in this age of "sound bites" not everything can be adequately covered in a short paragraph. My lease is 10 pages long; tenants are adults who may choose to read the material or not.

    If It turns out that I'm wrong about the way people will behave in this crisis I'll suffer the financial pain, admit it, and adjust my policies accordingly.

    We'll all see soon enough.

  • Investor · Akron, OH · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    6y

    @John Collins @Marian Smith @Carrie K.  Darn it. I meant to '@' you on my comment above but I didn't get them in there and they won't go in an edit. Thank you for the support/positive comments. From the very beginning here, I've been swimming upstream so I'm use to negativity on any post like this.

  • Rental Property Investor · Ankeny, IA · Member since 2017 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    6y

    If I'm being honest, even I didn't read your entire letter. It was at least twice as long as it needed to be, maybe even 4 times as long. I hope it works out for you, but that is not the approach I am taking. I am not looking to give tenants permission to ask for relief before they even think of it themselves. I'll handle each tenant on a case-by-case basis, if and when they contact me. I expect rent to be paid right after they purchase food. 

  • Specialist · Plano, TX · Member since 2020 · 2k+ posts · 861 votes
    6y

    Especially liking the wipes in toilet memes and posts.  It's good to remember simple day to day tips that will reduce maintenance costs down the road. More people in a home for a longer period of time is already going to be more wear.

  • Investor · Akron, OH · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Account Closed:

    Remember Beaker of the Muppets......Me,me,me,me,me,me,me,me...........at least leave out the parts you mention  where your bills have to be paid.

    Come back and talk to me when your turnover and record of collecting rent is as good as mine.

  • Investor · Birmingham, AL · Member since 2016 · 315 posts · 206 votes
    6y

    @Jill F.

    I only have a handful of Sfh and most are paid off however I still have to pay insurance and taxes which means I still have expenses to pay. Do you think the insurance companies nor the counties will give us a pass on these costs of taxes and insurance.

    That’s about$3-400 per home plus about $175 month each toward maintenances and when you are retired like I am, I count on this small amount income.

    Good luck and be safe. JP

  • Investor · Akron, OH · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    6y

    @John Patton I doubt that we'll get a pass on taxes here in Ohio. I'm pretty sure that insurance won't give us a pandemic break. I also am retired, as is my husband. This is how we make our living. I think my approach, while counter-intuitive to many, makes the best business sense. I guess we'll see.

    I wish you the best down in Alabama. I graduated from UAB back in 1986. I still dream about those Milo's burgers from his little building on 10th ave N. 

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