Tenant Responsible for Sewer Pipe?

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No avatar medium Mark S.
Investor from Richmond, KY
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Mark S.

Investor from Richmond, Kentucky

Aug 18 '13, 07:00 AM

I have a family member that asked me about an issue he's having with his current landlord. I told him I'd ask the community to see what everyone thinks.

He and his family are currently renting in Colorado. They've been in the same single family house for the past 4-5 years. There have been some issues with the sewer line or sewer pipe going from the house to the street. In the newest lease, the landlord is attempting to make him responsible for any repairs needed that have to do with this pipe. He got an estimate from a plummer that said it would be $12-$15K to fix this issue, having to dig way into the ground, etc.

I told him that my best guess is that this is NOT something he should be responsible for. I believe this one is on the landlord.

What do you guys think?

Medium 1398784765 avatar wheatie Jon Holdman
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Aug 18 '13, 07:04 AM

Absolutely the landlord's responsibility. I just spent about $6000 to replace one at one of my rentals. Have a working sewer is a reasonable expectation of a tenant.

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Medium 1413300636 avatar investfourmore Mark Ferguson
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Aug 18 '13, 07:06 AM

landlords responsibility for sure.

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Medium 1434903723 avatar wakeproperties Chris Martin
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Chris Martin

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Aug 18 '13, 07:06 AM

... unless there is gross neglect by the tenant. In your scenario, I don't think this is the case.

No avatar medium Tony Reale
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Tony Reale

from Franklin, Tennessee

Aug 18 '13, 07:27 AM
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Almost certainly owners responsibility. Having a plumbing background and doing this many times for landlords, he would have to prove a history of the tenants neglect. Many times I have gone to a rental to clean a drain for a landlord and he is sitting there watching and waiting for me to pull the snake out to see what caused the blockage. If it's roots or old pipes, they ask me to bill them. If it's toys, rags, or other things that shouldn't be in a drain line I am asked to bill the tenant. I usually bill the landlord anyway and let him go after the tenant for the simple fact that I didn't do business that way. I usually billed whoever calls me unless all parties are in agreement in front of me.

Medium 1415904854 avatar anson Anson Young
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Aug 18 '13, 07:55 AM

having had to replace quite a few in Denver, $12-15k is a total rip off. 4-7k is most likely. And landlords responsibility.

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Medium 1432347935 avatar j4julie Julie Oldham
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Julie Oldham

Real Estate Investor from Westminster, Colorado

Aug 18 '13, 08:30 AM

Yes, in Denver $12-$15k is a total rip-off UNLESS your sewer line runs under the driveway. I had one like this. Got a shiny new driveway out of the deal, too.

Tony Reale

from Franklin, Tennessee

Aug 18 '13, 08:39 AM

They do make an item, I believe called a mole, which bores a hole under your driveway. It is not something that most companies will have so they won't bid on the job thinking about it. I have used one once and had to rent it. it was pretty cool and far cheaper than replacing a driveway. Just a tip for others that run into this.

No avatar medium Todd Plambeck
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Investor from Plano, Texas

Aug 18 '13, 09:15 AM

Unless he's flushing explosive devices down the toilet then no. If he's flushing diapers down the toilet then he should be responsible for having the RotoRooter man come out for $300-$400. I had to replace the sewer in a rental a couple years back because the old clay pipes broke down and wouldn't have dreamed of asking the tenant to take care of it. Sounds like he needs to find a new place to live if the owner is going to make him sign something like that.

Medium 1399703439 avatar ether Adrian Tilley
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Aug 19 '13, 06:46 AM
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I think what you're asking is whether the tenant should sign something making him responsible for repairs to the line in the future. If you're asking about whether the tenant is currently responsible, you're getting varied responses because we don't have enough information. It ultimately depends on the facts of the circumstances (why the problem occurred - whether the pipes are just falling apart or the tenant flushed something inappropriate down the toilet) and the language in the lease. Either of those things could place the responsibility on either party.

If you are asking about whether the tenant should sign something making him/her responsible in the future, I certainly never would, but if the place is worth it to them, that's their decision.

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Medium 1448397917 avatar plaussie1 Pat L.
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Pat L.

Investor from Upstate, New York

Aug 19 '13, 07:27 AM

I agree it's the Landlord's responsibility

We just sold a home to a middle-aged Vet who was renting a run down POS.

When attempting to get back their security deposit the landlord refused saying she had to replace the 20 yr old fce because of their neglect !!!!

They have receipts for the p.a. fce servicing they had done (but not required in the lease). Being the Town Justice she told them 'good luck'.

So they are reluctant to fight it.

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