Angel Fire, New Mexico?
10 Replies
Aaron Henricksen
posted about 2 months ago
Does anyone have any thoughts on the STR market in Angel Fire, NM (or Taos or Red River in that area)? I'm in Central Texas and am looking for a STR destination that could be used for a few days (or a week) once or twice each year by my family, while still cash flowing very well as a STR. That area is one that has occurred to me that appeals for personal reasons (distance, location, climate), and it appears much cheaper to purchase than the ski towns I looked at in Colorado. Does anyone have any experience in this area, reasons I should (or should not) purchase in this area, or any alternatives in that part of the country that might be better for what I'm looking for? Or, and this is an alternative question, is there any place in the country that cash flows better as a STR than any other area? I know a lot of people like investing in the Gatlinburg/Pigeon Forge area, and haven't ruled that out, although it's a further drive from where I'm at.
Justin Anderson
Property Manager from Pigeon Forge
replied about 2 months ago
I've yet to find a ski town that'll be cash flow positive. 1M in Breck will get me 80k in bookings while 1M in Pigeon Forge will get me 140-160k+. Being truly year round really helps PF and places like it. I bought my first cabin in PF simply because I could take the profits from that to pay for my yearly ski trips and still come out ahead.
The ski towns can come out ahead if you figure in appreciation, though. But I'm more of a cash flow guy preferring the reliable base hits to home runs, but that's just me.
Aaron Borrego
Developer from Santa Fe, NM
replied about 2 months ago
Hello, I have been purchasing some real estate lately in Angel Fire. Right now rentals seem to be doing very well and you can get a nice property in the 500k range. What interested me the most about Angel Fire was that it doesn't turn into a ghost town after the skiing ends. The resort has a world class downhill mountain bike area that stays very busy all summer as well as a great golf course too. Within 12 miles there is also a lake in Eagle Nest for fishing and no wake boating. The combination of all of these help to insure the short term rentals stay reasonably booked.
If you're looking for a broker to send you any property info shoot me a message and we can connect.
Thanks!
Rohin Dhar
Investor from San Francisco, CA
replied about 2 months ago
We have an STR in Taos and it cashflows extremely well. I think the first year cash-on-cash return might exceed 65%. It is however, very architecturally unique so gets a lot of bookings just because people want to stay there. Your mileage may vary with a more generic property. This is the place:
https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/4...
This is to say, there might be opportunities in New Mexico, but it's not guaranteed. It might require finding a diamond in the rough, or it might be smooth sailing, or it might be impossible. You can figure it out through research and underwriting though. In general people really like coming to the Taos area and it's the last relatively affordable ski area in the Rockies.
Troy Jaster
Real Estate Agent from San Antonio, TX
replied 16 days ago
Aaron - I am in the process right now of trying to work out a deal on a STR in Angel Fire. We took a family trip there about a month ago and I was chatting a bunch with the owner. I finally just said, "Do you have any desire to sell this place?" and she said, "Yes." We haven't worked out any details yet because she's still trying to figure a few things out. However, I've been in touch with a fantastic Realtor there who's given me a ton of insight on the local STR market.
I'm in San Antonio and would probably visit 2-4x per year, in person, and rely on renting it out for the remainder of the year. I'm happy to jump on the phone with you and share notes! I'll shoot you my info in a DM.
Collin H.
replied 14 days ago
I have many friends with property in Angel Fire. As an STR prospect, I would rate it as poor. Very iffy ski season, not a lot to do in the summer. Limited restaurants, a few small lakes for fishing, very little entertainment. I wouldn't touch Angel Fire for STR.
Jonathan Stone
from Tualatin, OR
replied 13 days ago
Love the idea of an earth ship as an STR. I would guess the overhead costs are pretty low as well.
Aaron Henricksen
replied 13 days ago
@Collin H. Thanks for the feedback. Do any of your friends with property in Angel Fire use their properties as STRs? If so, do you know what their experience has been. And, is there anywhere else in the region that you would recommend for a STR?
Collin H.
replied 13 days ago
Originally posted by @Aaron Henricksen :@Collin H. Thanks for the feedback. Do any of your friends with property in Angel Fire use their properties as STRs? If so, do you know what their experience has been. And, is there anywhere else in the region that you would recommend for a STR?
Aaron, of the owners I know, none use their homes as rentals. I have a friend moving there in May. Of the folks I know who own / have owned there, they use the house a lot the first couple of years, then they don’t go any more because there’s just not much to do there. The restaurant scene is sparse, so you have to drive to Red River or Taos to eat something decent. Those are 45 minutes to an hour away.
On the rare occasion that I go to angel fire, I stay at the lodge there for less than 100 bucks usually. It’s mostly vacant during fly fishing season.
I am only 5 hours away from that entire area, but I’ve never considered it for STRs. I can’t make the numbers work. And that actually goes for most ski-oriented areas.
Aaron Henricksen
replied 12 days ago
@Collin H. Thanks again for the info. So it seems like you're not very optimistic about the prospects of STR in any of the ski areas, including Taos and Red River? Or, it's mostly Angel Fire specific?