Brand new to real estate investing

Brand new to real estate investing

Royal Oak, MI · Member since 2025 · 6 posts · 6 votes
Hi guys, I’m a physician in Michigan and I’m quickly learning that real estate investing is the most reliable path to long-term wealth. Excited to do my first deal, which is likely going to be a local short term rental due to tax savings. Appreciate any advice. Thank you, Sergey.
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Melissa JusticeBusiness Member
Rental Property Investor · Phoenix, AZ · Member since 2024 · 518 posts · 1k+ votes
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@Sergey Toshinskiy,

Welcome Sergey! You’re absolutely right - real estate is one of the best vehicles for building long-term wealth. A short-term rental can definitely have strong tax advantages, especially if you or your spouse qualify for real estate professional status or can materially participate.

That said, since you’re busy as a physician, you may also want to look at turnkey long-term rentals in the Midwest and Southeast. They’re already rehabbed, professionally managed, and pre-leased in many cases. It’s a great way to get cash flow, appreciation, and tax benefits without adding another demanding “job” to your plate.

Happy to share more on both strategies - STRs vs. turnkey LTRs - and help you weigh what fits your lifestyle best. Best of luck!

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  • MD/DC · Member since 2024 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    1y

    Hi Sergei welcome. While I think RE offers excellent diversification I wouldn't say it is the most reliable path to long term wealth especially for physicians because of the time required. As you know there will be people eager to "help" due to the fact that you are a doctor with available cash. In addition to your STR investment plan I'd recommend checking out White Coat Investor forum. It has been pretty hard to beat low cost total stock market index funds in recent years for a diversified and truly passive investment.

  • Lender · Cary, NC · Member since 2021 · 122 posts · 29 votes
    1y

    What area of medicine are you in? Short term is pretty active so it will be much more time consuming. As someone who has worked in healthcare, I know how little time and energy is left at the end of the day. Have you explored more passive strategies? Depending on what you have to invest, you could leverage someone else's time and experience while making more of a return than you could in the market. 

    • Royal Oak, MI · Member since 2025 · 6 posts · 6 votes
      1y

      @Kate Nixon Taylor im a w2 reconstructive plastic surgeon. Tax advantages is the most appealing part of real estate investment as you can imagine :)

  • Dylan TanakaPro Member
    Real Estate Agent · Detroit, MI · Member since 2008 · 455 posts · 178 votes
    1y

    Welcome to BP & REI! We have a very active investor community in Metro Detroit.

  • Drew SygitBusiness Member
    Property Manager · Royal Oak, MI · Member since 2012 · 12k+ posts · 9k+ votes
    1y

    @Sergey Toshinskiy welcome aboard!

    You should pay attention to the following:

    1) Many service providers will hit you up with their advice to try to do business with you.
    - Make sure you're careful with their advice as it's usually biased, so do some of your own research! Also, make sure you learn to separate facts from opinions:)

    2) Many fellow investors will also share their advice.
    - Understand that while they are trying to be helpful, their advice is often extremely biased & myopic as it is based on their limited experience.

    - A few others may appear to be giving their personal advice, but if you track their posts you'll soon see they are actually covertly promoting a service provider:(

    3) Age of advice - be very careful with this one. Many of the materials available here on BP were written several years ago in a vastly different market and no longer really apply today. Read below for a quick overview on why that's important to understand.

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    The Real Estate Crash of 2008-2010 caused real estate prices to crash across the country - but didn't affect rent amounts. This caused a historically unique opportunity for investors - they could buy Class A properties and immediately cashflow when renting them out.

    This couldn't last forever, and it didn't, as excited new investors drove up prices.

    Eventually, Class A property values increased to the point that even increasing rents didn't allow them to cashflow upon purchase.

    So, the flood of new investors switched to buying Class B properties.

    COVID created a chaotic spike in both the sale & rental markets, attracting even more new real estate investors. According to CoreLogic, in December of 2023, almost 30% of home sales were to investors!

    Investment also spiked in Class A Short-Term Rentals (STR) and investors started paying higher and higher prices based upon anticipated STR rental rates, that exceeded sustainability based upon Long-Term Rental rates (LTR).

    Now we're seeing investors pouring money into buying Class C rentals - but, many are getting burned.

    In our experience & opinion, the main determinant of property Class is not location or even property condition, those are #2 and #3. The #1 determinant is the Tenant Pool.

    If you don't believe us, try putting several Class D tenants in Class A apartment buildings and watch what happens. Or try the reverse - rehab a property to Class A standards in a Class D neighborhood and try to get a Class A or B tenant to rent it.

    Unfortunately, many newbie real estate investors are jumping into buying affordable Class C rentals - expecting Class A results.

    In our opinion, Class C tenants have FICO scores from 560 to 620 - where their chance of default/nonpayment is 15-22%. See the chart from Fair Isaac Company (FICO) below:

    FICO Score

    Pct of Population

    Default Probability

    800 or more

    13.00%

    1.00%

    750-799

    27.00%

    1.00%

    700-749

    18.00%

    4.40%

    650-699

    15.00%

    8.90%

    600-649

    12.00%

    15.80%

    550-599

    8.00%

    22.50%

    500-549

    5.00%

    28.40%

    Less than 499

    2.00%

    41.00%

    Source: Fair Isaac Company

    According to this chart, investors should use corresponding vacancy + tenant-nonperformance factors of approximately 5% for Class A rentals, 10% for Class B and 20% for Class C.

    To address Class C payment challenges, many industry "experts" are now selling programs to newbie investors about how Section 8 tenants are the cure. If only it was that easy. Yes, the government pays the Section 8 rent timely, but more and more tenants are having to pay a portion of their rent. Then there are the challenges with Section 8 tenants paying utilities and taking care of their rental property.

    Investors should fully understand that Section 8 is not a cure-all for Class C & D tenant challenges, it's just trading one set of problems for another.

    We see too many investors not doing enough research to fully understand all this and making naïve investing decisions.

  • Member since 2019 · 81 posts · 25 votes
    1y

    Welcome aboard!!! I got into BRRR about 20 years ago and it has allowed for a lot of flexibility as I generate cashflow and appreciation.

  • Royal Oak, MI · Member since 2025 · 6 posts · 6 votes
    1y

    Thank you Andrew. I hope I'm not too late to the dance 

  • Melissa JusticeBusiness Member
    Rental Property Investor · Phoenix, AZ · Member since 2024 · 518 posts · 1k+ votes
    1y

    @Sergey Toshinskiy,

    Welcome Sergey! You’re absolutely right - real estate is one of the best vehicles for building long-term wealth. A short-term rental can definitely have strong tax advantages, especially if you or your spouse qualify for real estate professional status or can materially participate.

    That said, since you’re busy as a physician, you may also want to look at turnkey long-term rentals in the Midwest and Southeast. They’re already rehabbed, professionally managed, and pre-leased in many cases. It’s a great way to get cash flow, appreciation, and tax benefits without adding another demanding “job” to your plate.

    Happy to share more on both strategies - STRs vs. turnkey LTRs - and help you weigh what fits your lifestyle best. Best of luck!

  • Real Estate Agent · Detroit · Member since 2025 · 3 posts · 0 votes
    1y

    Hey Sergey, I'm a local realtor and own two short term rentals in Oakland County. I built a sizable portfolio of long term rentals but recently shifted my acquisitions to short term for additional tax savings and higher cash flow. Feel free to DM if you want to chat!

  • Benjamin AakerPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Brandon, SD · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    1y
    Hi Sergey. Welcome to BP. Fellow physician investor here (EM). I'm happy to talk with you more about REI.
  • New to Real Estate · Miami, FL · Member since 2024 · 1k+ posts · 472 votes
    1y

    Welcome, Sergey! You’re absolutely right, real estate is one of the most reliable paths to long-term wealth, and your focus on short-term rentals for tax advantages is smart, especially as a high-income professional.

    Royal Oak is a strong market with demand for short-term stays, so if you run the numbers carefully and stay compliant with local regs, it can be a great first move. Excited to see how your journey unfolds.

    Feel free to reach out if you ever want to dive into strategy or financing options.

  • New to Real Estate · Miami, FL · Member since 2024 · 1k+ posts · 472 votes
    1y

    Welcome, Sergey! You’re absolutely right—real estate is one of the most reliable paths to long-term wealth, and your focus on short-term rentals for tax advantages is smart, especially as a high-income professional.

    Royal Oak is a strong market with demand for short-term stays, so if you run the numbers carefully and stay compliant with local regs, it can be a great first move. Excited to see how your journey unfolds.

    Feel free to reach out if you ever want to dive into strategy or financing options.

  • Member since 2021 · 34 posts · 29 votes
    1y

    Sergey, Are you looking at investing in a STR in Royal Oak? Or are you looking at other areas? I'm also looking to invest in this market. Let me know if anyone has any thoughts about STRs in this area. I've got a few vacation rentals in other states, but looking to get into an STR in Metro Detroit since I have a few other long term investments in the area.

    • Member since 2025 · 14 posts · 4 votes
      1y
      Quote from @Kingsley Thomas:

      Let me know if anyone has any thoughts about STRs in this area. 

      Kingsley, I own/manage a short-term rental property in Detroit near a hospital and am very pleased with the results. Happy to answer any questions you have!
  • Denise SuppleeBusiness Member
    Realtor · Willow Grove, PA · Member since 2017 · 998 posts · 649 votes
    1y

    @Sergey Toshinskiy Welcome, welcome. So exciting to hear. I have spent over 30 years working, investing, managing and selling real estate. I recently co-founded a coinvesting group where it is strictly passive investing. I got so tired of dealing with problems like tenant complaints, evictions and repairs. Now, I invest and do not have to deal. Plus as members of the club, we all get together and vet the deals and decided whether or whether not we want in or not. Anyway, I wish you well and success in all you do!!

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  • Member since 2025 · 14 posts · 4 votes
    1y

    @Sergey Toshinskiy a notable hurdle I see with our new clients trying to enter the rental market in Southeast Michigan is the drag that the high property taxes have on expected net cash flows. 

    Generally speaking, you can increase cashflows relative to property taxes by either:

    -Investing in multi-family properties in a good location. The higher average $/sqft of the whole property will help offset the property taxes and also better diversification of vacancy risks. In my experience, multi-family properties are well suited for short-term furnished rentals.

    -Investing in homes that are in need of renovation. Particularly in Detroit, lower acquisition cost will result in lower assessed property values which in turn lowers the property tax burden. Easier said than done, this is only recommended for investors with trusted contractors in place.

    A lot of opportunities in Detroit, I'd be happy to help you explore your options.

    Excited for your journey in real estate! Best of luck!

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