Politely tell a landlord to go away

Politely tell a landlord to go away

Sedalia, MO · Member since 2017 · 29 posts · 9 votes

we have been remodeling a 12 unit multi family with an office space and meeting room. So far the owner/manager has had us move the location of the walls 3 times Mass ordered sheetrock that can't be put up between units because of fire code regulations. Outsourced subcontracting to a number of younger family members who are not license to do construction work in our area. Told us to use the sheetrock that had been put up and torn down as soundproofing around the meeting room. And just generally micromanage every aspect of the remodel which would be annoying but fine if they knew the industry but they don't. we had to tear out all the sheetrock so the city inspector could check the wiring this week. I am trying to find the balance between telling someone they need to trust the people they hire or optioning the fact that it's their money and their choice. Anyone have advice on ways to deal with this. There have been several times when it's been tempting to walk away but we really aren't the kind of crew to leave people high and dry.

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Investor · Downers Grove, IL · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 955 votes
9y

@Michael Niemeier

I would approach the owner with a bill of what you/your crew has already done so far. Tell the owner that because of all the issues and changes, it's creating more work for you and you crew and this is not part of the SOW that you've originally quoted.

So either the owner pays you that to walk away, OR you guys negotiate the rest of the amount of the work to be done to your level, per the SOW. So that both parties are happy. 

Of course, it all depends on what is on your contract with the owner as well. 

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  • Investor · Downers Grove, IL · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 955 votes
    9y

    @Michael Niemeier

    I would approach the owner with a bill of what you/your crew has already done so far. Tell the owner that because of all the issues and changes, it's creating more work for you and you crew and this is not part of the SOW that you've originally quoted.

    So either the owner pays you that to walk away, OR you guys negotiate the rest of the amount of the work to be done to your level, per the SOW. So that both parties are happy. 

    Of course, it all depends on what is on your contract with the owner as well. 

  • Investor · Riverside, CA · Member since 2015 · 280 posts · 111 votes
    9y

    I would simply tell him he needs to start signing change orders for all this additional work not in your scope. 

  • Architect · Papillion, NE · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 840 votes
    9y

    @Michael Niemeier

    The owner does not pay for rework when the contractor failed to coordinate trades, inspections process or non-compliant work.  This is one reason why he is paying a general contractor.  Now if the owner is changing his mind and or the construction documents then yes the owner should pay for the rework if the work has been installed and compliant.  From what you described both issue are present here.  If the owner is asking you to change things that are not installed then this may not be cause for additional fee. You need to review your contract and the specifications (division 0 and 1) which are part of the contract.   Also understand the definition of "change order" from Wikipedia...

    A change order is work that is added to or deleted from the original scope of work of a contract, however, depending on the magnitude of the change, it may or may not alter the original contract amount and/or completion date. A change order may fork a new project to handle significant changes to the current project.

    CSI industry standard...

    http://eo2.commpartners.com/users/CSI/downloads/Change_Order_Basics.pdf

  • Buy & Hold Owner · Redlands, CA · Member since 2015 · 5k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    9y

    Major project mismanagement and coordination of work.  Use a GC instead of trying DIY.

  • Investor · Riverside, CA · Member since 2015 · 280 posts · 111 votes
    9y

    are you the GC or just a hired crew and the owner is acting as the GC? 

  • Sedalia, MO · Member since 2017 · 29 posts · 9 votes
    9y

    hired crew under contract with the owner

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