Any good deals in the SF Bay Area still?

Any good deals in the SF Bay Area still?

Brian LarsonPro Member
Investor · San Jose, CA · Member since 2018 · 313 posts · 230 votes
Anyone out there still finding deals in the SF Bay Area? If so, are you finding any on the MLS? Or are they all coming from pocket listings and wholesalers?
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Chris MasonPro Member
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Lender · CA · Member since 2015 · 9k+ posts · 10k+ votes
7y
Originally posted by @Brian Larson:
Anyone out there still finding deals in the SF Bay Area? If so, are you finding any on the MLS? Or are they all coming from pocket listings and wholesalers?

 Market is slowing. 

Look for high DOM and write at or slightly below where comps are at (in the Bay Area we look at comps; asking price is obviously a garbage data point in our market). Just four months ago I wouldn't have said that because it would at that point in time been a waste of time.

So far this month about half of the appraisals crossing my desk have been for above contract price, meaning the appraiser's opinion is that the buyer is walking into a bunch of free equity - $10k here, $44k there, $27k over yonder, and so on. 4 months ago that was rare. Times are a-changing, it's never been a better time to be a buyer in the Bay Area within the last 5 years or so than right now. 

Another anecdote, just yesterday I had a listing agent follow up with me with regards to a buyer that wasn't even yet preapproved, asking when they'd be ready to write an offer. Four months ago that never would have happened since the agent would already have had 15 offers in-hand. Told the buyer's agent to consider dropping their offer when we get to that point, since obviously this was going to be the only offer on the table. :P

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  • Winston Salem, NC · Member since 2017 · 201 posts · 56 votes
    7y
    There are lots in every market. Many neighborhoods no way for people to know what is in every neighborhood, therefore, people say deals are dried up. I responded to someone asking how to find deals from what I can tell it worked they pm me they are doing well. People are set in their ways too much, keep doing what dnt really work I love Cali.there are ways to make it easy
  • Chris MasonPro Member
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    Lender · CA · Member since 2015 · 9k+ posts · 10k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Brian Larson:
    Anyone out there still finding deals in the SF Bay Area? If so, are you finding any on the MLS? Or are they all coming from pocket listings and wholesalers?

     Market is slowing. 

    Look for high DOM and write at or slightly below where comps are at (in the Bay Area we look at comps; asking price is obviously a garbage data point in our market). Just four months ago I wouldn't have said that because it would at that point in time been a waste of time.

    So far this month about half of the appraisals crossing my desk have been for above contract price, meaning the appraiser's opinion is that the buyer is walking into a bunch of free equity - $10k here, $44k there, $27k over yonder, and so on. 4 months ago that was rare. Times are a-changing, it's never been a better time to be a buyer in the Bay Area within the last 5 years or so than right now. 

    Another anecdote, just yesterday I had a listing agent follow up with me with regards to a buyer that wasn't even yet preapproved, asking when they'd be ready to write an offer. Four months ago that never would have happened since the agent would already have had 15 offers in-hand. Told the buyer's agent to consider dropping their offer when we get to that point, since obviously this was going to be the only offer on the table. :P

  • Rental Property Investor · Oakland, CA · Member since 2014 · 730 posts · 1k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Brian Larson:
    Anyone out there still finding deals in the SF Bay Area? If so, are you finding any on the MLS? Or are they all coming from pocket listings and wholesalers?

    My last 2 deals have been off-market. The selling broker knew my criteria and I took them down without having to compete on price. It was great. 

    This is in comparison to my first 7 purchases (from 2014-2017)... which were all from MLS.

    Everything I see on MLS these days is way overpriced (at least in the multifamily realm)

  • Brian LarsonPro Member
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    Investor · San Jose, CA · Member since 2018 · 313 posts · 230 votes
    7y
    @Saj Shah Thanks for the reply. I figured that there was still some opportunities out there but there are less than there were a few years back. I’ll keep looking for some of the off market listing opportunities.
  • Brian LarsonPro Member
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    Investor · San Jose, CA · Member since 2018 · 313 posts · 230 votes
    7y
    @Chris Mason Thanks for the insider information from your experiences.
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