Consolidate Retrieval & Legal Efforts Against SCOTT CARSON & INVERSE ASSET Fund

[Dana Yobst]

 I am 1 of the over 20 people owed over $2 Million Dollars.  Are you another one ? Let's work together to put this creep out of business.  The investors duped by Norada are getting traction...we can too!  I won my default judgement against Carson In March 2021.

I am putting due diligence and know that we have an outsized impact if we band together in a coordinated efforts.  I know that it's embarrassing to admit getting scammed, so PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PM me so that we can work together and end Carson's ongoing efforts to take advantage of investors.  Congrats to the investors who have recovered $$ already!! 

Here is a subset of court cases..... Gerry Cohen, Al Curiel, Beth Hale, Bella Scanland, Chris Frank, Michele Orgell, Kristin Cook, Gar Parries, Ryan Snelson Daniel Flores , Ronald Rohde, Aaron Mazzrillo. Jon Soucy Mike Layne Patrick Folker . Todd LaPierre, Adam Adams , Patrick Desjardins, Ronald Rohde, 

[Chris Seveney]

@Dana Yobst

Blows my mind how he is out there still teaching classes and going on as nothing happened but it sounds like these debts are not getting substantially paid down.

[Chad U.]

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@Dana Yobst

Blows my mind how he is out there still teaching classes and going on as nothing happened but it sounds like these debts are not getting substantially paid down.

As many of us know, one of the main reasons he's able to continue on is with the help of this other self proclaimed criminal 

https://weclosenotes.com/ep-nc-03-protecting-yourself-using-a-corporate-veil-with-aaron-young-from-laughlin-associates/

[Dana Yobst]

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@Dana Yobst

Blows my mind how he is out there still teaching classes and going on as nothing happened but it sounds like these debts are not getting substantially paid down.

As many of us know, one of the main reasons he's able to continue on is with the help of this other self proclaimed criminal 

https://weclosenotes.com/ep-nc-03-protecting-yourself-using-a-corporate-veil-with-aaron-young-from-laughlin-associates/

 Chad - I hadn't seen that before.  Thanks for sharing. 

[Dana Yobst]

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@Dana Yobst

Blows my mind how he is out there still teaching classes and going on as nothing happened but it sounds like these debts are not getting substantially paid down.

 Yup! It is ludicrous! 

[Chris Seveney]

@Chad U.

I also heard many rumors that JM was allegedly being sued by investors as he brokered transactions and ran away with the $. Another close companion.

[Don Konipol]

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@Dana Yobst

Blows my mind how he is out there still teaching classes and going on as nothing happened but it sounds like these debts are not getting substantially paid down.

As many of us know, one of the main reasons he's able to continue on is with the help of this other self proclaimed criminal 

https://weclosenotes.com/ep-nc-03-protecting-yourself-using-a-corporate-veil-with-aaron-young-from-laughlin-associates/

Using a remote entity to limit liability is a life blood of insuring investment into all types of job creating, life saving and life improving business development.  Not many would risk everything they own if that was a requirement of investing in a business. 
if you’re referring to FRAUD”, then the individual committing said fraud can be sued individually, and  can not claim remote entity protection since they and not the entity, or they in addition to the entity are guilty of fraud.  So, the solution to the problem is built into the system.  The problem is NOT the use of remote entity as any fraudulent  activity will fall back on the individual performing fraudulent acts.  
If there’s a real problem with the system, it stems from the difficulty of actually EXECUTING an obtained judgement.  Just because one obtains a judgement, doesn’t mean they are able to collect the judgement.  Numerous ways assets can, legally and illegally be placed beyond the reach of judgement creditors. 

[Chad U.]

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@Dana Yobst

Blows my mind how he is out there still teaching classes and going on as nothing happened but it sounds like these debts are not getting substantially paid down.

As many of us know, one of the main reasons he's able to continue on is with the help of this other self proclaimed criminal 

https://weclosenotes.com/ep-nc-03-protecting-yourself-using-a-corporate-veil-with-aaron-young-from-laughlin-associates/

Using a remote entity to limit liability is a life blood of insuring investment into all types of job creating, life saving and life improving business development.  Not many would risk everything they own if that was a requirement of investing in a business. 
if you’re referring to FRAUD”, then the individual committing said fraud can be sued individually, and  can not claim remote entity protection since they and not the entity, or they in addition to the entity are guilty of fraud.  So, the solution to the problem is built into the system.  The problem is NOT the use of remote entity as any fraudulent  activity will fall back on the individual performing fraudulent acts.  
If there’s a real problem with the system, it stems from the difficulty of actually EXECUTING an obtained judgement.  Just because one obtains a judgement, doesn’t mean they are able to collect the judgement.  Numerous ways assets can, legally and illegally be placed beyond the reach of judgement creditors. 

Yep it's called being "Judgement Proof".  Control everything but own nothing.

[Don Konipol]

I hope everyone scammed here is able to recover at least some money; however the subject “guru” appears to be quite adept at dodging responsibility and consequences.  

[Chris Seveney]

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I hope everyone scammed here is able to recover at least some money; however the subject “guru” appears to be quite adept at dodging responsibility and consequences.  

  This one has been going on a while. I think BP is a great place to get people publicly together and then they can create a private group. We are seeing that with investors in Norada, David Zook ATM investments and others are posting on forums like BP and reddit and creating private groups to try and stir the pot and get actions taken. In this instance the judgments (20+/-) are already issued, now its a matter of collecting while the individual continues with their training programs and buying loans. If someone can get the SEC or another financial division to take notice then that could change the playing field dramatically. 

[Dana Yobst]

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I hope everyone scammed here is able to recover at least some money; however the subject “guru” appears to be quite adept at dodging responsibility and consequences.  

 Yes, he is slippery.  I don't want him to victimize others either.  

[Mark F.]

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Quote from @Don Konipol:

I hope everyone scammed here is able to recover at least some money; however the subject “guru” appears to be quite adept at dodging responsibility and consequences.  

  This one has been going on a while. I think BP is a great place to get people publicly together and then they can create a private group. We are seeing that with investors in Norada, David Zook ATM investments and others are posting on forums like BP and reddit and creating private groups to try and stir the pot and get actions taken. In this instance the judgments (20+/-) are already issued, now its a matter of collecting while the individual continues with their training programs and buying loans. If someone can get the SEC or another financial division to take notice then that could change the playing field dramatically. 

Dave Zook is constantly touted on the Real Estate Guys Radio show. I couldn't find any threads on BP that mention him in a negative light, is he another charlatan?

[Jamie Bateman]

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Quote from @Don Konipol:

I hope everyone scammed here is able to recover at least some money; however the subject “guru” appears to be quite adept at dodging responsibility and consequences.  

  This one has been going on a while. I think BP is a great place to get people publicly together and then they can create a private group. We are seeing that with investors in Norada, David Zook ATM investments and others are posting on forums like BP and reddit and creating private groups to try and stir the pot and get actions taken. In this instance the judgments (20+/-) are already issued, now its a matter of collecting while the individual continues with their training programs and buying loans. If someone can get the SEC or another financial division to take notice then that could change the playing field dramatically. 

Dave Zook is constantly touted on the Real Estate Guys Radio show. I couldn't find any threads on BP that mention him in a negative light, is he another charlatan?

I had the same question. I have met him and to my knowledge he is an upstanding person. He has numerous types of offerings (ATM, car washes, land). I know this my be a tangent for this thread, but I didn't know there were questions about Zook's character. 

[Chris Seveney]

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Quote from @Don Konipol:

I hope everyone scammed here is able to recover at least some money; however the subject “guru” appears to be quite adept at dodging responsibility and consequences.  

  This one has been going on a while. I think BP is a great place to get people publicly together and then they can create a private group. We are seeing that with investors in Norada, David Zook ATM investments and others are posting on forums like BP and reddit and creating private groups to try and stir the pot and get actions taken. In this instance the judgments (20+/-) are already issued, now its a matter of collecting while the individual continues with their training programs and buying loans. If someone can get the SEC or another financial division to take notice then that could change the playing field dramatically. 

Dave Zook is constantly touted on the Real Estate Guys Radio show. I couldn't find any threads on BP that mention him in a negative light, is he another charlatan?

I had the same question. I have met him and to my knowledge he is an upstanding person. He has numerous types of offerings (ATM, car washes, land). I know this my be a tangent for this thread, but I didn't know there were questions about Zook's character. 

 to be clear, i do not know the either person I referenced personally nor invested with them, so i am not commenting on anyones character. Just noting that there are forums going around that people are alleging they are not getting paid so they are considering taking legal action. 

[Dana Yobst]

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Quote from @Don Konipol:

I hope everyone scammed here is able to recover at least some money; however the subject “guru” appears to be quite adept at dodging responsibility and consequences.  

  This one has been going on a while. I think BP is a great place to get people publicly together and then they can create a private group. We are seeing that with investors in Norada, David Zook ATM investments and others are posting on forums like BP and reddit and creating private groups to try and stir the pot and get actions taken. In this instance the judgments (20+/-) are already issued, now its a matter of collecting while the individual continues with their training programs and buying loans. If someone can get the SEC or another financial division to take notice then that could change the playing field dramatically. 

 Homeland Security is taking the case!

[Chris Seveney]

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Quote from @Don Konipol:

I hope everyone scammed here is able to recover at least some money; however the subject “guru” appears to be quite adept at dodging responsibility and consequences.  

  This one has been going on a while. I think BP is a great place to get people publicly together and then they can create a private group. We are seeing that with investors in Norada, David Zook ATM investments and others are posting on forums like BP and reddit and creating private groups to try and stir the pot and get actions taken. In this instance the judgments (20+/-) are already issued, now its a matter of collecting while the individual continues with their training programs and buying loans. If someone can get the SEC or another financial division to take notice then that could change the playing field dramatically. 

 Homeland Security is taking the case!

 Wow. Congratulations (I think)

[Dan Deppen]

Glad to hear someone is finally taking this up, but I'm curious why it would be Homeland Security and not the SEC?

[Dana Yobst]

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Glad to hear someone is finally taking this up, but I'm curious why it would be Homeland Security and not the SEC?

I'm not sure Dan.  I reached out to the SEC too and have not gotten traction yet.  Homeland Security is also working on the Norada cases. 

Homeland covers: Stopping financial fraud, illegal trade and the sale of fake goods to protect the U.S. economy, American businesses and your money.

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[Don Konipol]

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Glad to hear someone is finally taking this up, but I'm curious why it would be Homeland Security and not the SEC?

I'm not sure Dan.  I reached out to the SEC too and have not gotten traction yet.  Homeland Security is also working on the Norada cases. 

Homeland covers: Stopping financial fraud, illegal trade and the sale of fake goods to protect the U.S. economy, American businesses and your money.

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At the risk of being proven wrong, I find it hard to believe that the Department of Homeland Security is involved in investing a failed real estate investment. 
If you have any evidence of Homeland Security involved, I would be most interested in seeing it.  As I said I could very possibly be proven wrong on this. 
However, the only reference to Homeland Security I’ve seen is a post of a seeming “wish list” of investigative agencies by the OP in the Norada thread, who, if you read his posts, is obviously less than a reliable source of information and consumed by rage.  My gut tells me that Homeland Security was one of the agencies he reported the “alleged” fraud to, and anything further was wishful thinking on his part.  But as I said, if you have any proof, I’m happy to look at it and admit if I’m wrong. 

[Chris Seveney]

@Dan Deppen

Just my guess

SEC is civil only and probably not big enough for them. Texas division of banking (whatever they are called in that state) probably should have done something but appears they didn’t

DHS actually is one of the departments that prosecuted criminal financial crimes - most think of them only as border patrol as their major function but they also investigate this type of activity

https://www.dhs.gov/hsi/investigate/financial-crime

Time will tell if these cases ever go anywhere but for those involved probably just happy someone finally picked up a phone to atleast listen to

[Jay Hinrichs]

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@Dan Deppen

Just my guess

SEC is civil only and probably not big enough for them. Texas division of banking (whatever they are called in that state) probably should have done something but appears they didn’t

DHS actually is one of the departments that prosecuted criminal financial crimes - most think of them only as border patrol as their major function but they also investigate this type of activity

https://www.dhs.gov/hsi/investigate/financial-crime

Time will tell if these cases ever go anywhere but for those involved probably just happy someone finally picked up a phone to atleast listen to

IRS criminal is another good one to sic on them.. I have seen them jump into action.. Most criminals defrauded the IRS

[Chris Seveney]

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@Dan Deppen

Just my guess

SEC is civil only and probably not big enough for them. Texas division of banking (whatever they are called in that state) probably should have done something but appears they didn’t

DHS actually is one of the departments that prosecuted criminal financial crimes - most think of them only as border patrol as their major function but they also investigate this type of activity

https://www.dhs.gov/hsi/investigate/financial-crime

Time will tell if these cases ever go anywhere but for those involved probably just happy someone finally picked up a phone to atleast listen to

IRS criminal is another good one to sic on them.. I have seen them jump into action.. Most criminals defrauded the IRS

I wonder what would happen if the people who combined lost like $2M all sent 1099's to him-I bet that would wake up the IRS but not sure if it would impact their claim later on.