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Val Simpson
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Estero, FL
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Who owns this property given this situation?!

Val Simpson
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Estero, FL
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My father and my uncle purchased a property (property A), for which they took out a "private loan". The "private lender" put a "lean" on a property my uncle owned free and clear (property B). After some time, the "free & clear" property sells; the title company who closes on the sale missed the "lean" of the "private lender". Later that year, the "private lender" puts in a claim to the title co, he gets paid and also signs over an "Assignment of Note & Mortgage" to the title company. I had to order an O & E report to find all this information because my father and my uncle never heard from the title company and the property still shows under their name in public records. My questions are as follows: 

* Who owns the property (property A)? 

* It's been 7 years since the "assignment of note & mortgage"; if the Title Company owns the property, shouldn't they have recorded it into their name with the county already? 

* Can the private lender get paid for the claim and in addition "assign the note & mortgage"? At the time he gets paid (for his claim) shouldn't a "Satisfaction of Mortgage" be issued? 

* Who should issue the "satisfaction of mortgage"? The Title Company? 

I appreciate any insight. Thank you!

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Dustin Haviland
  • Title Representative
  • Indianapolis, IN
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Dustin Haviland
  • Title Representative
  • Indianapolis, IN
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@Val Simpson I work in the title industry and your situation is slightly unclear. I will attempt to make some assumption(hopefully accurate ones) for the unclear potion of your explanation. The lien that was placed on property B could have been (1) of (2) options; an unpaid invoice from the lender (not the actual mortgage) for outstanding costs incurred by the default. Or if the lender received an In Personam court order judgement, that would attach to any/all properties owned by the individual. But then again, that wouldn't be a lien that would be a judgement. Liens are only valid for (1) year from the date recorded. It's most likely option(2) and the judgement was paid by the title company for missing it when they transferred ownership of Property(B). Property (A) is still owned by your Father/Uncle with a note/mortgage held by the title company. The title company should have recorded the assignment. 

(1) Your father and uncle still own Property(A).

(2) Title company should have recorded the assignment of mortgage and/or probably did record a release for the judgement.

(3) Yes he can get paid for the judgement and assign the mortgage and still not satisfy the mortgage.

(4) If the mortgage is truly satisfied, the satisfaction of mortgage is issued by the note holder, which as this point is the title company.

It sounds like the title company is trying to recover the money they had to payout for missing the judgement by obtaining the mortgage. When your Father/Uncle go to the sell of Property(A) the title company will require the mortgage to be satisfied through closing which will be paid to the title company at this point. They are using a creative solution to force your father/uncle to pay the judgement after the fact.

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