Oklahoma City weather, roofs, and insurance

Oklahoma City weather, roofs, and insurance

Member since 2018 · 17 posts · 9 votes

Hey all,

I'm buying a property in OKC and am considering investing more there, but a big issue on my mind is severe weather ie. tornadoes and heavy hail.  I'm finding insurance companies either charge very high rates for roof replacement coverage or you can go with Actual Cash Value which means you'll likely eventually have to shell out some cash out of pocket for roof replacement.  Can any of you who deal with severe weather chime in with your thoughts on insurance and risk to your properties from weather events?  How do you plan for these and does it eventually eat up all of your cash flow?  Thanks so much for your help!

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Edmond, OK · Member since 2012 · 53 posts · 63 votes
4y

The rates are already a part of my calculations.  More or less due to hail, you’ll be lucky if a roof goes for more than 10 years. 

Some due diligence will be to find out of it has the appropriate decking underneath.

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  • Edmond, OK · Member since 2012 · 53 posts · 63 votes
    4y

    The rates are already a part of my calculations.  More or less due to hail, you’ll be lucky if a roof goes for more than 10 years. 

    Some due diligence will be to find out of it has the appropriate decking underneath.

  • Rental Property Investor · Oklahoma City, OK · Member since 2020 · 309 posts · 184 votes
    4y

    @Chris Ivy - @Micheal Briscoe is exactly right. A roof won't go much longer than 10 years here (that I've seen!).  Have you checked around with local insurance brokers getting several home insurance rate estimates? I use as a starting point 1% insurance and 1% taxes in my analysis - then dial it in closer if the deal looks like it's worth investigating further.  

  • Ben ScottPro Member
    Property Manager · Oklahoma City, OK · Member since 2019 · 578 posts · 351 votes
    4y

    I agree on the 10year life span for a roof in Oklahoma. Even with the 30-year shingles. Replacement Costs coverage can be more expensive but could pay for itself if we have a big hail event. Then actual cash value can depreciate down to nothing over time. As a real estate investor, though, if a hail storm hits you wouldn't necessarily have to address the roof unless its leaking if you plan to keep it long term.

  • Member since 2018 · 17 posts · 9 votes
    4y

    Thanks for the responses guys!  It feels a little bit like a gamble.  I'll be starting with a brand new roof as of 2021, but I know for a fact it does not have decking.  It's a smaller house so the premium for replacement cost over 10 years vs the actual cost of replacement in the event of serious damage might break even.  Seems like either way it's something you have to factor in.  

  • WorldWide · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    4y
    Originally posted by @Chris Ivy:

    Thanks for the responses guys!  It feels a little bit like a gamble.  I'll be starting with a brand new roof as of 2021, but I know for a fact it does not have decking.  It's a smaller house so the premium for replacement cost over 10 years vs the actual cost of replacement in the event of serious damage might break even.  Seems like either way it's something you have to factor in.  

     doesn't have decking? wut?

  • Real Estate Broker · Salt Lake City & Oklahoma City · Member since 2018 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    4y

    Surely it has decking, but just slat boards or plywood instead of the current OSB code, right @Chris Ivy?

  • Member since 2018 · 17 posts · 9 votes
    4y

    @Will Fraser and @Victor S., you guys are right.  It has old 1 by decking, not osb.  Thanks for making me check!

  • Member since 2018 · 17 posts · 9 votes
    4y

    By the way, can anyone recommend a roofer in the area?  Half of the roof was recently redone, but the other half needs to be replaced.  Thanks again!

  • WorldWide · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    4y
    Originally posted by @Chris Ivy:

    By the way, can anyone recommend a roofer in the area?  Half of the roof was recently redone, but the other half needs to be replaced.  Thanks again!

    Check out Icon Roofing. Haven't dealt with them directly but they stopped after a storm, and i got pretty good vibes from them. Looked them up on Google reviews and all are 5-star as well, which is unheard of in this industry. 

  • Real Estate Broker · Salt Lake City & Oklahoma City · Member since 2018 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    4y

    Hey Victor, how do you suppose they got those 5 star reviews?  

    My family recently bought a highly recommended thing from Amazon because . . . obviously if it has 7k 5* reviews it's bulletproof, right?

    What was in the package, right on top, waiting to be seen as soon as we opened it?  A card that said "leave us a 5* review and recommend us to a friend, send us a screenshot of it, and we'll give you $20!"

    If Icon is doorknocking and has a seemingly-amazing reputation there are at least 2 ways they could get that.

  • Real Estate Broker · Salt Lake City & Oklahoma City · Member since 2018 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    4y

    @Chris Ivy call up Tanner with Acts29 Roofing and Construction . . . he is the ONLY one I call for roofs now and it doesn't take much interaction with Tanner or his crew to see why!

  • New to Real Estate · Oklahoma City, OK · Member since 2018 · 37 posts · 5 votes
    4y

    my insurance guy tells Me to use 1$ per sqft when I'm running my numbers btw. And 1% on the sale price is pretty close for taxes in my experience.

  • Member since 2020 · 4 posts · 0 votes
    4y

    Chris Ivy, if you are still looking for a roofer, Meyers Construction (Eddie Myers owner) he is my neighbor, honest, inexpensive (low overhead) and does super quality work.

  • Member since 2021 · 27 posts · 15 votes
    4y

    I've been doing research on OK, and 1% seems to be what I was getting. Sounds about right. 1% taxes too btw. 

  • Member since 2018 · 17 posts · 9 votes
    4y

    Thanks to everyone for your input.  Managed to close on a property and the numbers look good so far.  We’ll see about the next one!  You guys are a huge help!

  • Ben ScottPro Member
    Property Manager · Oklahoma City, OK · Member since 2019 · 578 posts · 351 votes
    4y

    Congrats @Chris Ivy on getting the deal closed!

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