Refi out of Hard Money Loan

Refi out of Hard Money Loan

Rental Property Investor · San Francisco, CA · Member since 2018 · 19 posts · 2 votes

I'm rehabbing a property that I bought in Mesquite using Hard Money. The property will finish rehab Apr 17. Now, I want to refinance out of that property using a lender/bank. I'm working with a bank who will refi it but the rates are too high 5.5%. What's a good interest rate I can get for such properties?

Who have you folks used as lenders for such refis? Many thanks in advance.

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Wilmington, NC · Member since 2017 · 132 posts · 70 votes
7y

Some credit unions do, some don't. You just have to ask. Many won't fund repair costs, and need at least six month seasoning. 75% LTV and no LLCs. Start dialing for dollars.

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  • Investor · Dallas, TX · Member since 2016 · 135 posts · 62 votes
    7y

    If it is a commercial loan, then 5.5% is about right.  

  • Investor · Taylor Mill, KY · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 964 votes
    7y

    @Yash Ranadive That doesn't seem crazy high or anything

  • Wilmington, NC · Member since 2017 · 132 posts · 70 votes
    7y

    Rate seems about right, but you also need to consider LTV, term and amortization--all of which affect your cash flow. Too many get hypnotized by the rate when it's cash in your pocket that determines the value of a deal.

  • Mortgage Broker · Dallas, TX · Member since 2017 · 657 posts · 275 votes
    7y

    @Yash Ranadive Hello! I am assuming that you are doing a full documentation loan program? As in they are requiring your income information and qualifying you off your personal liabilities?

    Keep in mind that there are certain pricing hits that occur that are included in rate. For your situation they would be "cash out" and "non owner occupied." This means that you cannot compare it to a loan that would you use for your own personal use to purchase.

    A 5.5% rate is pretty darn good. I work with alot of investors doing the same thing and I see rates that are normally 6.5% and higher. These are good rates too specifically because they are loans for no documentation required and no seasoning for title.

  • Rental Property Investor · San Francisco, CA · Member since 2018 · 19 posts · 2 votes
    7y

    This is not a commercial loan. This is my first investment property and I haven't used by my 10 loans yet. A friend of mine got a 4.8% rate last month with a private investment group/bank in Phoenix. I don't know the details but looks like that is not common.

    Also I want to make sure that there are no seasoning terms. Do credit unions handle this kind of refinances? 

  • Wilmington, NC · Member since 2017 · 132 posts · 70 votes
    7y

    Some credit unions do, some don't. You just have to ask. Many won't fund repair costs, and need at least six month seasoning. 75% LTV and no LLCs. Start dialing for dollars.

  • Stephanie P.Pro Member
    Washington, DC Mortgage Lender/Broker · Member since 2016 · 4k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Yash Ranadive:

    I'm rehabbing a property that I bought in Mesquite using Hard Money. The property will finish rehab Apr 17. Now, I want to refinance out of that property using a lender/bank. I'm working with a bank who will refi it but the rates are too high 5.5%. What's a good interest rate I can get for such properties?

    Who have you folks used as lenders for such refis? Many thanks in advance.

     5.5 is not high.  

  • Stephanie P.Pro Member
    Washington, DC Mortgage Lender/Broker · Member since 2016 · 4k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Yash Ranadive:

    This is not a commercial loan. This is my first investment property and I haven't used by my 10 loans yet. A friend of mine got a 4.8% rate last month with a private investment group/bank in Phoenix. I don't know the details but looks like that is not common.

    Also I want to make sure that there are no seasoning terms. Do credit unions handle this kind of refinances? 

     5.5 with no seasoning won't be a Fannie/Freddie backed loan, so it will be even higher.  The only place I can remotely think you may be able to get something like that would be a local (and I mean local) bank.

  • Rental Property Investor · San Francisco, CA · Member since 2018 · 19 posts · 2 votes
    7y

    Thanks folks for the comments. It puts things in perspective.

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