Financing Difficulties for an investor loan to get 2nd property

Financing Difficulties for an investor loan to get 2nd property

Member since 2019 · 10 posts · 4 votes

Hello all,

I have been having trouble acquiring a investor loan line of credit to acquire my second property. My credit score is good(750) and I have enough for 25% down on a 250K home(which is the price point I am looking around). The trouble seems to be 3-fold.

1)I sublease the rooms in my primary residence and it covers my mortgage + ~$500 a month, so overall an excellent cashflow and I have had zero vacancies in the 18 months I have owned the home. Thus far lenders have said this income "doesn't qualify" even though If I rented the entire home it would.(seems arbitrary and stupid)

2)My primary income is ~60k salary income but I have contractor based income that amounts to about another $4000 a month(I understand that I can't count this per se as its variable and less than 2 years for the contractor income) 

3)I have medical school loans that are currently in deferment, I am on the 10 year IBR so my loan balance will be forgiven tax free in 6 more years. Though they are currently in COVID deferment I acquired a letter from my loan servicer indicating if I did put the loans into repayment it would only be ~$300 a month. However the one underwriter I worked with thus far insisted on counting 0.5% of the loan balance per month against my income in spite of having assurance from my loan processer and this is in no way reflective of the reality of my loan situation. 

My question is how do investors get around these issues? As I understand it most real estate investors have loads of debt and income that is not salaried. Am I just asking for money from the wrong mortgage underwriter? 

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  • Lender · St. Augustine · Member since 2022 · 60 posts · 32 votes
    4y

    It sounds like you would benefit from a bank statement loan. This would purely look at your cash flow rather than having to have the income looked at through a traditional underwriting lens. You could also go the DSCR route, which would completely eliminate your income issues becaues you'd be qualified off solely the rental income of the prospective purchase. These are not commonly known programs with your average bank or credit union, but loans that I do all the time as I work with investors regularly. I think either of these would eliminate all your issues.

  • Andrew PostellPro Member
    Lender · Fort Worth, TX · Member since 2016 · 8k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    4y

    @Steven Clevenger Generally speaking there are 2 main types of loans for investors: “Conventional” and “Portfolio”

    Conventional - I'll define these as loans that come from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac (if you recognize those names). These loans are all 30 year fixed rate loans. They have the lowest rates we can find and since they are 30 year fixed...they allow us to cash flow better...which helps us qualify for other loans later. The draw back to these loans is that they are more paperwork heavy than the other "portfolio" types of loans....but if you have ever received a loan on your primary home, it's likely that you will go through the same type of paperwork here with conventional lending. Fannie/Freddie money = Fannie/Freddie rules. NOT the bank's own money.  These are the ones that care about your "debt to income" ratio.

    Portfolio - I'll define these loans as loans that come from the bank's own "portfolio" of money. Sometimes referred to as "commercial" loans. Sometimes referred to as "bank statement" loans.  Whatever they call them I want you to think of these loans that come from the lender directly.  These loans are a lot more flexible than "conventional" loans. Bank's money = Bank's rules. If they like you, then maybe they will lend to you. But since there is a limit to how much money the bank has access to....their rate will be higher...and usually a shorter term. The most common portfolio style loan in Texas is a 20 year adjustable rate loan. These loans are easier to get but the terms are different.  There are plenty of 30 year, fixed rate loans though.

    Anyway, I hope this helps in some way. 

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