What is your target cash on cash return?

What is your target cash on cash return?

Member since 2022 · 9 posts · 2 votes

Hi BiggerPockets Community, 

After analyzing a deal, what cash on cash return are you targeting to identify if this is a good deal? What other metrics are you evaluating and which numbers are "good numbers?"

Thank you!

Cheers,

Andrew 

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Lender · PA · Member since 2019 · 535 posts · 461 votes
3y

@Andrew Diamond    I agree with @Scott E. that while cash on cash return is important the key to real estate is to select locations and properties that will appreciate over 5-10 years. If you are holding the property the gold will be in the increase in value, the tax benefits and the increasing equity through payment of principal. This is why when we reach the end of a long upward market many investment property owners sell to take advantage of the increase in equity, They than bank the cash and pay taxes if necessary. They buy back in when the market has depreciated from a recession. Think long term not short term. 

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  • Contractor · Scottsdale, AZ · Member since 2010 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    3y

    I haven't looked at any buy & hold deals in ~6 months since the rates climbed up. Numbers just don't make sense at the moment.

    But 6 months ago my target cash-on-cash return was 7-8%. A lot lower than most people aim for, but I am very particular about location and only was looking to buy in "A" areas.

    What's nice with rentals is that you might "only" be making 7% cash-on-cash when looking at your cash flow compared to cash invested. But when you pile on appreciation, tax benefits, and principal pay down, your total return is much higher.

  • Lender · PA · Member since 2019 · 535 posts · 461 votes
    3y

    @Andrew Diamond    I agree with @Scott E. that while cash on cash return is important the key to real estate is to select locations and properties that will appreciate over 5-10 years. If you are holding the property the gold will be in the increase in value, the tax benefits and the increasing equity through payment of principal. This is why when we reach the end of a long upward market many investment property owners sell to take advantage of the increase in equity, They than bank the cash and pay taxes if necessary. They buy back in when the market has depreciated from a recession. Think long term not short term. 

  • Basit SiddiqiBusiness Member
    Accountant · New York, NY · Member since 2015 · 8k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    3y

    my goals are 8% cash on cash return and 4% appreciation

  • Rental Property Investor · Russellville, AR · Member since 2014 · 688 posts · 509 votes
    3y

    I personally don't look at COC. I care about positive cash flow and appreciation. Over the long term, COC doesn't mean much anyway (IMO).

  • Real Estate Agent · Member since 2019 · 569 posts · 257 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Andrew Diamond:

    Hi BiggerPockets Community, 

    After analyzing a deal, what cash on cash return are you targeting to identify if this is a good deal? What other metrics are you evaluating and which numbers are "good numbers?"

    Thank you!

    Cheers,

    Andrew 


     It is becoming harder and harder to set a target since rates are constantly moving. I am seeing people settle for 4-7% with a better equity position in appreciation based markets close to the beach. 

  • Investor · Austin, TX · Member since 2021 · 9k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    3y

    Not shooting for any COC return. Trying to buy as cheap as humanly possible in this weird market. I want my returns to be scary

  • Member since 2022 · 14 posts · 9 votes
    3y

    I think it’s arbitrary. It can be what ever you want it to be. One way to establish it would be to do an expected rate of return used for bond valuation. You add the risk free rate, inflation and credit risk to arrive at a number. The problem at the moment with that formula is inflation is so high you’ll never find a return to meet it. 5% used to be the ‘normal’. Many investors now dispute that.

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