How to evaluate return on Apt building.

How to evaluate return on Apt building.

Member since 2021 · 12 posts · 2 votes

Would anyone care to share their process for analyzing a deal? I'm considering investing in a Apartment building rehab and trying to determine if its a deal. I created a PDF of the deal points to summarize it. An IRR of 21% seems low for commercial property is it not?

https://drive.google.com/file/...

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  • Investor · North Richland Hills, TX · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    4y
    Is this you proforma or somebody else's? Either way, P&L portion is missing. Without it, there is nothing to analyze.
    21% ARR is great if you can get it. However, see above.
  • Member since 2021 · 12 posts · 2 votes
    4y

    Hi Nick, Thanks for the reply. This is someone else data. Additional data provided. Did you mean IRR?

    https://drive.google.com/file/...

  • Investor · North Richland Hills, TX · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    4y

    Yes, IRR. Although ARR (average or annual rate of return) can also be used.

    A few thoughts:

    • They want to double the rents. What are the current and market rents?
    • What is the unit mix?
    • Where is this property located?
    • Economic vacancy of 3% on top of the double rent is very low
    • Payroll of $14-15K is also low. Not even a part-timer would work for that

    If I were you I would post the entire investor presentation

  • Member since 2021 · 12 posts · 2 votes
    4y

    I'm sure the company wouldn't appreciate me loading the presentation. All good questions you have and something I'm more versed in. The actual projected returns is my weak part. 

    I've had a less than 1% vacancy is this market on another building so I think 3% is safe. And I assume they factor payroll using their inhouse property management co. but I agree I'd probably 2-3x that. 

  • Member since 2020 · 984 posts · 1k+ votes
    4y

    Send the following information and I will put the numbers in my software and see how they come out

    number units

    last years total for expenses including the property tax you will pay, add management costs if you will have a property manager and include every expense except your mortgage payment.

    gross income
    purchase price
    down payment
    your closing costs
    total loan amount
    interest rate
    how much do you think you can increase rents within a few months after escrow closes
    how much can you increase rents every year
    do you have major capital expense expectations.

  • Investor · North Richland Hills, TX · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    4y
    Originally posted by @Dan T.:

    I'm sure the company wouldn't appreciate me loading the presentation. All good questions you have and something I'm more versed in. The actual projected returns is my weak part. 

    I've had a less than 1% vacancy is this market on another building so I think 3% is safe. And I assume they factor payroll using their inhouse property management co. but I agree I'd probably 2-3x that. 

    If this is 506c offering, they will be glad you've published it. What if they gain more investors that way?

  • Member since 2021 · 12 posts · 2 votes
    4y

    Hi Jack,

    I'm interested to hear more about you software and how it analyses the data below

    number units-29

    last years total for expenses including the property tax you will pay, add management costs if you will have a property manager and include every expense except your mortgage payment. $190,783

    gross income $384,298


    purchase price -$5,320,000


    down payment

    Equity Target

    $2,024,280

    Company Holdings (10%)

    Investors (90%)

    $202,428

    $1,821,852

    Acquisition/Rehab Debt

    $5,066,250

    (75% LTC, 3.75% Interest Rate)


    your closing costs

    Escrow and Closing Costs

    $30,000

    Escrow, legal, due diligence reports

    Loan Cost

    $44,330

    Lender loan fee (.875%)

    Reserves

    $75,000

    Cash reserves

    Acquisition Fee

    $186,200

    Loan guarantee, organizational efforts


    total loan amount $5,066,250 +

    Investor Equity

    $2,024,280


    interest rate 3.75%


    how much do you think you can increase rents within a few months after escrow closes
    how much can you increase rents every year- They are estimating 40% year one and 3% per year thereafter.


    do you have major capital expense expectations. Renovation Costs $1,435,000

  • Member since 2021 · 12 posts · 2 votes
    4y

    I've seen no reference to a 506c offering. But I do know the proposal is only sent to a select group of investors they have worked with before. 

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