[Calc Review] Help me analyze this deal - Kansas City 14 unit

[Calc Review] Help me analyze this deal - Kansas City 14 unit

Rental Property Investor · Port Saint Lucie, FL · Member since 2015 · 107 posts · 44 votes

BP,

I have a property in Kansas City I am looking for some guidance on.

14 Unit

List Price: $750K

Cap rate is what I am a little unsure of in Kansas City, i used 8 cap for this example

ARV based on the 8 cap is $1,470,000.

4 units are currently rehabbed, with 10 needing to be rehabbed, each unit is a 1bed 1bath about 450 SQ FT, i have quotes to rehab each unit for $10K

the BP BRRR calc is giving me very small cash flow, but "infinite" returns after 5 years.

Just trying to determine if i am close to the realistic numbers here or am I far off? 


Thank you! 

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Real Estate Agent · Kansas City · Member since 2018 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
4y
Quote from @Scott Goulet:

BP,

I have a property in Kansas City I am looking for some guidance on.

14 Unit

List Price: $750K

Cap rate is what I am a little unsure of in Kansas City, i used 8 cap for this example

ARV based on the 8 cap is $1,470,000.

4 units are currently rehabbed, with 10 needing to be rehabbed, each unit is a 1bed 1bath about 450 SQ FT, i have quotes to rehab each unit for $10K

the BP BRRR calc is giving me very small cash flow, but "infinite" returns after 5 years.

Just trying to determine if i am close to the realistic numbers here or am I far off? 


Thank you! 

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*This link comes directly from our calculators, based on information input by the member who posted.

For the area 8-10 cap would be a safe bet. I am pretty sure I know which one you are referring to. One concern would be how small the 1 bed units are. I do think $700 for market rent is conservative. 
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  • Rental Property Investor · Kansas City, MO · Member since 2018 · 23 posts · 21 votes
    4y

    @Scott Goulet Thanks for starting this discussion. I'm anxious to see other responses because I am looking at a smaller multi-family deal (in a small town just East of KC). I am getting a Cap rate closer to 7. Full disclosure, this is my first time really digging into a multi-family deal, so I'm not confident in my analysis at this point. I don't know if the ARV should drive the cap rate, or if the cap rate should drive the ARV. I should clarify that the one I am looking at doesn't have much room to support adding equity through rehab. I'm using the list price as the ARV for now.

  • Real Estate Agent · Kansas City · Member since 2018 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    4y
    Quote from @Scott Goulet:

    BP,

    I have a property in Kansas City I am looking for some guidance on.

    14 Unit

    List Price: $750K

    Cap rate is what I am a little unsure of in Kansas City, i used 8 cap for this example

    ARV based on the 8 cap is $1,470,000.

    4 units are currently rehabbed, with 10 needing to be rehabbed, each unit is a 1bed 1bath about 450 SQ FT, i have quotes to rehab each unit for $10K

    the BP BRRR calc is giving me very small cash flow, but "infinite" returns after 5 years.

    Just trying to determine if i am close to the realistic numbers here or am I far off? 


    Thank you! 

    View report

    *This link comes directly from our calculators, based on information input by the member who posted.

    For the area 8-10 cap would be a safe bet. I am pretty sure I know which one you are referring to. One concern would be how small the 1 bed units are. I do think $700 for market rent is conservative. 
  • Property Manager · Kansas City, MO · Member since 2022 · 78 posts · 24 votes
    4y

    Affordable housing is so needed in this area. Multi-family is really the best way to go in my opinion. Message me if you want to chat.

  • Real Estate Agent · Kansas City, MO · Member since 2016 · 35 posts · 10 votes
    4y

    Having rents at $700 as you run numbers is a smart move. For me, the main concern with the building is the 1 bed and 1 bath at 450 sqft. I'd imagine there'd be quite a bit of turnover. Now there are areas in the city that'd be super popular; however, I'm not confident this is the property right now. But you may be comfortable with that. A previous listing for the property mentioned a coin operated laundry. Are there any other revenue streams for the property (laundry, parking, etc.). Another thing I'm curious about is the seller's motivation and how they landed on that list price--but, again, that's just me. 

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    Rental Property Investor · Nashua, NH · Member since 2014 · 599 posts · 477 votes
    4y

    Will defer to others with more knowledge of local area, but 450 sqft rental spaces screams transient income renters to me, which is exactly what you don’t want to be dealing with when trying to establish consistent, reliable cash flow. 

  • Property Manager · Kansas City, MO · Member since 2022 · 78 posts · 24 votes
    4y

    I do agree that you may tend to get a more transient tenant at that price, but you could also offer them to Section 8 tenants if needed, and would be guaranteed the money. Just a thought.

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