53k Duplex need advice

53k Duplex need advice

Investor · Ashland, KY · Member since 2014 · 77 posts · 12 votes

Alright, I'm currently looking at a duplex for 53k.  Not to rough inside but it does need a new roof  and gutters ASAP and Central heat and air installed.  Windows need updated aswell. 

Privacy fence needs panels replaced and the porch needs painted.

Currently rents for $825 a month total.  With central heat and air $1200-$1250 should be easily done.

The current owner is interested in seller financing the deal or atleast part of it.

I feel as though I'll have close to 70k in at after all repairs and updates.  It should definately be at $1200 then.

Does this sound like an OK deal or a pass??

Thanks.

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Salem, OR · Member since 2013 · 701 posts · 159 votes
11y

It sounds OK to me.  I base that on requiring an 8 cap. assuming a 50% expense ratio and a 16 cap on the additional rent that you create.  It is my opinion that you should not pay full price for the extra rent that you create.  I value it at 1/2 price.

To me, financing is only a factor if it is below or above market rate.

Good Luck.

Bill 

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  • Baltimore, MD · Member since 2015 · 301 posts · 82 votes
    11y

    Check out the Rental Calculator under the 'Analyze' tab above. That will help you better understand the ins and outs of this deal. 

    How will you be financing this? Can you get in a lower offer due to known issues with the duplex? Have you factored in taxes, insurance, property management, maintenance...etc?  

  • Investor · Ashland, KY · Member since 2014 · 77 posts · 12 votes
    11y
  • Salem, OR · Member since 2013 · 701 posts · 159 votes
    11y

    It sounds OK to me.  I base that on requiring an 8 cap. assuming a 50% expense ratio and a 16 cap on the additional rent that you create.  It is my opinion that you should not pay full price for the extra rent that you create.  I value it at 1/2 price.

    To me, financing is only a factor if it is below or above market rate.

    Good Luck.

    Bill 

  • Real Estate Investor · Lancaster, PA · Member since 2015 · 102 posts · 102 votes
    11y

    @Derek Woods 

    When you say duplex, do you mean half the duplex or both units... in different parts of the country they use Duplex, semi detached, and half a double, all to describe the same type of 1 unit SFR.

    What is the value when this is all fixed up and in great shape? 

    So you are putting $70k in rehab ON TOP? of the $53k??

    I am not trying to be dense.... trying to get the info to help.

  • Investor · Ashland, KY · Member since 2014 · 77 posts · 12 votes
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    @Judah Hoover 

    When I say duplex I mean, the total income from two units combined should be easily $1200 or more.

    I will have $53k in purchase.

    $8k in central heat and air

    $6k in roof and gutters

    $3k in windows, fencing, finishing touches.

    For a total if $70k in the property.

  • Investor · Dyersburg, TN · Member since 2015 · 320 posts · 100 votes
    11y
    Taxes and insurance? Taxes are 3x that of sfh in my state on duplexes.
  • Investor · Ashland, KY · Member since 2014 · 77 posts · 12 votes
    11y

    taxes run about 1.2-1.5% of latest sale price.

    Insurance is about 500 yearly.

  • Investor · Chattanooga, TN · Member since 2012 · 227 posts · 114 votes
    11y

    Buy used hvac units and cut your costs by 1-2K

    Put it under contract ASAP with a out for due diligence. Control the deal. Sure up your numbers again and if they are what you say- Buy It!

    Good Luck

  • Investor · Ashland, KY · Member since 2014 · 77 posts · 12 votes
    11y

    I'm not sure I can cut the cost of repairs and updates down by much.  As their is only baseboard heat and window air now.  3-4k per apt is a pretty cheap install.  Their May be some wiggle room with the roof though.

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