Dumpy Mobile Home Park

Dumpy Mobile Home Park

Simpsonville, SC · Member since 2015 · 25 posts · 4 votes

Came across a dumpy little mobile home park today for sale for $47k.

6 lots 5 with homes and one empty.  All park owned homes.  All on city water and sewer.

#1 Rented for 400.  #2 rented for 350 #3 Undergoing renovation and not rented. #4 empty, no home #5 rented 350 and #6 rented 400.

What do you all think the likely hood is of getting the tenants to convert to a rent to own situation?  I was thinking of a lot rent around $150 should be doable.  

So 150*4(rented lots*)*12*.7(30% expense reserve)*10=50,400.  Seems like a good price on the park. At a 10 cap I would be getting free homes.  Now understand that these are not nice 2015 model homes but fairly old single-wides but free is free right.

Thoughts?

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Rental Property Investor · San Francisco, CA · Member since 2010 · 117 posts · 92 votes
11y

Tim -

Stop!  Get yourself educated.  Get to Frank & Dave's Bootcamp.  Don't do any deal until you get smart about this complicated space.  The diligence process must be done correctly - water pipes, sewer pipes, home inspections, competitive research, research on any violations, running test ads, researching the economy, etc., etc. Small deals like this DO NOT trade at a 10% cap rate.  More like 15%.  And I'm not even sure it's worth that depending on the condition of the homes and what market it is in.

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  • Simpsonville, SC · Member since 2015 · 25 posts · 4 votes
    11y

    And having never bought a mobile home park before how does diligence work?

  • Investor · Sherman Oaks, CA · Member since 2008 · 6k+ posts · 3k+ votes
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  • Investor · Charleston, SC · Member since 2013 · 106 posts · 18 votes
    11y

    Is the water/sewer billed back to tenants?  If not, expenses could be much higher.  40% expenses would be a good guess, but make sure you verify.  That assumes a 10% water/sewer usage.  I'm looking at a park that water/sewer cost is 25% of income!  

    And be aware of the competition -- you may or may not be able to pass on costs, depending on your lot rent and that of the other parks nearby.

  • Simpsonville, SC · Member since 2015 · 25 posts · 4 votes
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    Turns out the park pays the water and sewer. According to the listing agent the bills is about $500/month! Seriously changes the NOI.
  • Rental Property Investor · San Francisco, CA · Member since 2010 · 117 posts · 92 votes
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    Tim -

    Stop!  Get yourself educated.  Get to Frank & Dave's Bootcamp.  Don't do any deal until you get smart about this complicated space.  The diligence process must be done correctly - water pipes, sewer pipes, home inspections, competitive research, research on any violations, running test ads, researching the economy, etc., etc. Small deals like this DO NOT trade at a 10% cap rate.  More like 15%.  And I'm not even sure it's worth that depending on the condition of the homes and what market it is in.

  • Simpsonville, SC · Member since 2015 · 25 posts · 4 votes
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    @Jefferson Lilly

    Are you aware of any similar bootcamps on the east coast?  Frank and Dave's is literally on the other side of the country.

  • Investor · Durham, NC · Member since 2013 · 62 posts · 40 votes
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    Hi Tim, Frank and Dave are doing one in Chicago in June and then one in Charleston, SC in October. Maybe I will see you there, I'm in North Carolina.

    Janene

  • Simpsonville, SC · Member since 2015 · 25 posts · 4 votes
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    @Janene Tompkins

    Thank you for the information.  Charleston sounds like a winner!  Ill see if I can find the dates so I can put in for some time off.  Thanks again and see you there!

  • Rental Property Investor · San Francisco, CA · Member since 2010 · 117 posts · 92 votes
    11y

    Frank & Dave do their Bootcamps about six times a year in various cities nationwide.  They are curiously secretive about the future dates/locations, but you can contact Brandon Reynolds and ask him to tell you exactly when/where the upcoming Bootcamps are.  Tell him I sent you.

    -jl-

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