Deal Analysis:House Hack a 700k Home Purchased for 500k

Deal Analysis:House Hack a 700k Home Purchased for 500k

Nashville, TN · Member since 2018 · 8 posts · 3 votes

Hi BP Community, 

I have an opportunity to purchase my grandmother's home in a very nice Nashville neighborhood. Zillow estimates the home value to be between $679,000 - $792,000, but I would be able to purchase it between $500,000 and $525,000. Since this home is inherited by the family, I could purchase it with no or very low money down. This would be an owner occupied home which I would rent out the bottom floor for $1,750+, leaving me to cover the rest of the mortgage between $1,500 - $2,000. Exit strategy would be to gradually renovate the home (it could use some work but has a ton of potential for a longer term flip) and sell at the peak of the next market cycle, or live in this home long term. This home also has a ton of potential for short term rentals. Four bedrooms each have an exterior door leading to a patio. 

I'm a new investor looking for my first deal and a primary residence. I am wondering what the opportunity cost are, advantages to this deal, etc. This is a pretty big ticket item and seems like a my eggs would be in one basket, but the no money down portion could enable me to invest in other properties as well. My debt  to income would be pretty maxed out, but if I were to sell the home it seems the return could be pretty nice. 

Look forward to your thoughts!

Taylor

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Rental Property Investor · St. Petersburg, FL · Member since 2017 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
8y
I would caution using Zillow as a tool to estimate ARV. Make sure the numbers are good before jumping in.
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  • Real Estate Agent · Garden City, NY · Member since 2016 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    8y

    @Taylor Cochran

    Who owns the property now? Are you buying out other family members?

  • Nashville, TN · Member since 2018 · 8 posts · 3 votes
    8y

    @Christopher Phillips Yes, I would be buying out other families. 

  • Real Estate Agent · Garden City, NY · Member since 2016 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    8y

    Okay.

    The cost basis for an inherited property is when the property is initially received. Did anyone ever do an appraisal?

  • Rental Property Investor · St. Petersburg, FL · Member since 2017 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    8y
    I would caution using Zillow as a tool to estimate ARV. Make sure the numbers are good before jumping in.
  • Nashville, TN · Member since 2018 · 8 posts · 3 votes
    8y

    A couple real estate agents have been brought in and estimated a sell price of 600k. The ARV hasn't been calculated yet.

  • Real Estate Agent · Garden City, NY · Member since 2016 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    8y

    @Taylor Cochran

    Okay. So, you would be essentially buying out your relatives with a loan of $500K, and your portion would be the remaining $100k in equity.

  • Investor · Salt Lake City, UT · Member since 2016 · 287 posts · 270 votes
    8y
    Taylor Cochran keep in mind that if you are going to have a bunch of equity in the house after you purchase you could possibly tap some of that equity through a Home Equity Line of Credit. On the surface it sounds like you could get a great house with a good chunk of equity built in. I’d want to know what the house would be worth if it was fixed up. Is the bottom floor like a mother in law suite? You could possibly AirBnB the bottom floor and increase the monthly income. What would the top floor rent for? Could you live in the bottom and rent the top for more? Could you live there for a year and then move out and rent both top and bottom? AirBnB both? Potentially lots of options. Personally, I am looking to implement a similar strategy on a new build within a couple of years. It would be a long term play for me...building in a highly desirable and rapidly growing area. Rents and values would both increase over the long term.
  • Nashville, TN · Member since 2018 · 8 posts · 3 votes
    8y

    @Christopher Phillips That’s correct. My mortgage broker had the idea of locking in the 500k with the family, but having them do a 50k gift of equity, leaving me with a 550k loan but being able to pull 50k of that for renovations. 

    @Ryan E. the bottom floor has 4 beds, 1.5 baths, an office, and a living room. It would be possible to add a kitchen there. Each of the four rooms would be perfect to Airbnb and could make a killing, but the city doesn't allow short term rentals. However, state law changes might influence this. There could also be potential to convert a greenhouse into a boutique office space for someone to rent. Lots of options. I'm just trying to think through every angle since this is a big investment for my first purchase. You're right though, I need to figure out the ARV. If you hold it and sell in 10+ years, wouldn't the renovations depreciate? Would it make sense to renovate on the tail end of the deal? Thanks!

  • Real Estate Agent · Garden City, NY · Member since 2016 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    8y

    @Taylor Cochran

    Okay.

    So, you have to treat this like a buy and hold rental with you also living in one unit.

    So, you need to calculate the cash flow and the ROI.

    On the surface, if you're renting part of it for $1,750+ and mortgage would run around $2,500 at 4.5% interest rate.

    That leaves you with a negative cash flow for the investment before you consider property tax, home insurance, and reserves for maintenance, capital expenditures, vacancies, utilities, and property management.

    You should check out the Bigger Pockets video on rental property analysis. It's a pretty quick video that shows how to do very simple analysis.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_7vhsSBi7c

  • Investor · Nashville, TN · Member since 2013 · 47 posts · 26 votes
    8y

    @Taylor Cochran if you are the primary resident of the house, they do allow you to AirBnb. It just requires a type 1 permit vs. nonowner occupant types 2-3 (the ones that are being phased out).

  • Investor · Cleveland, OH · Member since 2015 · 6k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    8y
    Originally posted by @Taylor Cochran:

    A couple real estate agents have been brought in and estimated a sell price of 600k. The ARV hasn't been calculated yet.

    Your thread title sounded promising. But now? $100k went up in smoke, just like that!

    Your subsequent post about the city etc. has too many ifs, buts and maybes for my taste.

    The known available income seems very low to support a half mill loan, plus reno costs. 

    But, perhaps @Ryan Stahr's point about owner-occupier AirBnB is worth investigating? 

    [Relying on an AirBnB success story would make me very nervous though]. My 2c... 

  • Investor · Arlington, VA · Member since 2012 · 1k+ posts · 491 votes
    8y

    Sounds like a good opportunity for a flip vs. a buy and hold.

  • Investor · Taylor Mill, KY · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 964 votes
    8y

    @Taylor Cochran I think some other people have said it, but don't base ARV on what Zillow says. Get a good realtor to give you an idea of ARV.

  • Nashville, TN · Member since 2018 · 8 posts · 3 votes
    8y

    @Ryan Stahr Forest Hills has their own regulation against short term rentals, but Airbnb would be ideal. 

    @Brent Coombs Agreed. I jumped the gun with the estimates on the home. I'm doing a walk through this weekend to determine necessary renovations and ARV. I have confirmed the appraised value is 600k now.

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