Rental Property Investor · Wilmington, DE · Member since 2020 · 35 posts · 19 votes
I'm seeing and noticing a super low inventory in homes which is causing markets to become super competitive to a point where people are buying homes for above market value. I know the low rates have buyers seeking to purchase homes as well but my question is that if homes are being sold so frequently and some above market value or asking prices, why is the inventory so low? Just trying to get an understanding into how COVID can effect the inventory of homes.
Rental Property Investor · Member since 2019 · 304 posts · 462 votes
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There are basically three reasons:
1) People have lost their jobs and do not qualify for a new mortgage if they choose to sell and repurchase.
2) People are still afraid of COVID and do not want strangers coming through their homes. They are delaying listing their homes until the threat has passed.
3) Because of the decreased inventory, prices have moved higher in desirable areas, or have moved significantly lower in the big cities (NYC is prime example). Sellers cannot sell in less desirable areas for their asking price and buyers are being priced out of the market in desirable areas.
Rental Property Investor · Mechanicsburg, PA · Member since 2018 · 281 posts · 176 votes
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@Terry Harris Hi Terry, my thoughts are the people that are settled in at home seeing how this COVID plays out don't really want to make a move now (Unless a job loss, other action or those market savvy who see a chance for a good profit now drives them to sell).
Buyers are motivated by what you mention, low rates, as well as a desire to move out of the high population areas as they saw the COVID wave and high infection rates being reported daily in the press. They are willing to pay a little more to move now and settle in less populated suburbs. My take anyway.
Inventory will be low if you have people buying, but not listing. Many people who have homes are not going to move right now. Some have lost jobs and want the security of their home. I'll bet a lot of those buying are renters or people who are moving from another city.
Investor · Greenville, SC · Member since 2016 · 5k+ posts · 13k+ votes
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It's not safe for 50 million elderly Americans to leave their homes right now. Most of their friends and family members are being careful as well...and so are many people in general. Buying and selling homes right now is the last thing they are interested in. The health concerns, double digit unemployment, and other people concerned with their employment does not create an environment for a high volume of discretionary housing changes.
Rental Property Investor · Member since 2019 · 304 posts · 462 votes
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There are basically three reasons:
1) People have lost their jobs and do not qualify for a new mortgage if they choose to sell and repurchase.
2) People are still afraid of COVID and do not want strangers coming through their homes. They are delaying listing their homes until the threat has passed.
3) Because of the decreased inventory, prices have moved higher in desirable areas, or have moved significantly lower in the big cities (NYC is prime example). Sellers cannot sell in less desirable areas for their asking price and buyers are being priced out of the market in desirable areas.
Redwood City, CA · Member since 2017 · 13 posts · 10 votes
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To add to all of this, a lot of agents have been discouraging people from listing their properties in my area because of the hassle of dealing with Covid at the same time, many of them have, had said just wait a couple months then list later. I was told this on mine, listed it anyway.
Rental Property Investor · Wilmington, DE · Member since 2020 · 35 posts · 19 votes
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Originally posted by @Account Closed:
@Terry Harris Hi Terry, my thoughts are the people that are settled in at home seeing how this COVID plays out don't really want to make a move now (Unless a job loss, other action or those market savvy who see a chance for a good profit now drives them to sell).
Buyers are motivated by what you mention, low rates, as well as a desire to move out of the high population areas as they saw the COVID wave and high infection rates being reported daily in the press. They are willing to pay a little more to move now and settle in less populated suburbs. My take anyway.
Thank for the input. That makes sense as to why people don't want to sell at the moment.
Investor · Hillsboro, OR · Member since 2020 · 8 posts · 7 votes
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I would love to see a chart showing employee churn rate vs number of property listings. Employers keep their people and can't really fire them if they enjoy/enjoyed PPP loans thus less relocations due to jobs.
Open Houses are replaced by virtual tours and if you are lucky to visit houses then they need to be cleaned/disinfected before and after showings so I agree with @Ben Thomasian that agents discourage sellers to list.
I don't know. In Portland and this is entirely ANECDOTAL:
1) I see FOR SALE signs starting to stack up
2) Am buying a place from my brother-in-law and the CU broker says 95% of his biz is re-fis NOT originations
3) Money shot - I think I can get 30 years at 2.375%
Different markets are different.
I'm in a small town in Alberta. There have been 9 houses for sale in the last few months. Two are brand new, they haven't sold all of the others except one have sold in the last 2 months. The 6 that sold are a mix of old and new, one flip. I've never seen that many houses for sale in such a small area-literally along a couple of streets, and for them to sell so fast is really unusual. The low interest rates help. I renewed at just under 2.5% (Canadian mortgages work differently than in the US).
Pandemic/fear, recession, less job opportunities/unemployment, less marriages/relationships, people are no skipping that school district, etc. etc. Welcome to Real Estate Investment.
Real Estate Agent · Winston Salem, NC · Member since 2014 · 486 posts · 303 votes
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@Theresa Harris I agree with this. I think most people are afraid to move and the very few people who are moving are getting top dollar. As a realtor right now, the competition is crazy. It really doesn’t matter right now if you offer asking price because someone will come in and offer more. And you better be willing to offer even better terms, ie your financing, earnest money, etc.
Real Estate Agent · Winston Salem, NC · Member since 2014 · 486 posts · 303 votes
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@Ben Thomasian good for you. I think the market is so good right now...even if you got a hotel for 1 week while your house is being shown, you’ll probably sell within that time and make enough money to pay for the hotel stay...if your house is in good shape.
Investor · Leominster Ma · Member since 2019 · 305 posts · 162 votes
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I have really been watching this as a Real Estate agent. In fact I just pivoted my business in order to start investing too. This is my thoughts on this. People were planning to sell then COVID hit and they decided it would be a bad time to sell. We have another threat of being shut down again and it scares people. My gut is telling me most people packed in the idea of selling till next year. Couple this with the uncertainty of peoples job status and its a recipe for inventory shortage. Leominster Ma and Worcester Ma both have under 1 months worth of inventory right now. A good market typically has 4 months
Real Estate Broker · Minneapolis, MN · Member since 2011 · 5k+ posts · 6k+ votes
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I am a bit let down that nobody has pointed out the question to @Terry Harris of exactly how is "everyone" buying "at above market prices" when the very definition of Market Price is the amount for which something can be sold in a given market?
Above market price = not selling, selling = at market price, selling fast & for more than listing = below market offering.
So your actual question and issue is why are homes selling for more than you think they are worth, correct?
Real Estate Agent · Nashville, TN · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
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This is very market dependent, what I'm seeing in my market is a lot of sellers scared to list due to not wanting people in their houses at this time. The buyers are still there though. Basic economics playing out.
Driving house prices through the absolute roof. Not sure how some of these appraisals are coming back, but from what I know people are waiving contingencies now.
Real Estate Agent · Salem, OR · Member since 2019 · 86 posts · 60 votes
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Inventory has been low for a long time now. James Hamling said it correct, I too am disappointing no one said this earlier lol.
These buyers are not buying above market value. If buyers are buying at a certain amount then that is pull toward market value. Market value changes all the time based on seasons and appreciation. Gotta keep that in mind, I see this "Market value" conversation pop up a lot in small "gut decision" based flippers in my realty business. appreciation just simply outpaces their base knowledge of price.
Also, listed price does not equate to market value. If buyers offer above listed price then that just means it was priced below market. The market comes and pulls the price closer to "market value".
Don't mean for any of this to sound aggressive, but the idea of market value causes a lot of analysis paralysis for newer investors that don't understand it. It will always feels like there is a mini frenzy going on and prices will go back down to your normal. They almost never do lol. Now this COVID thing is very strange and no one knows where things are going to go, but just buy right based on recent comps and you should be fine.
I am a bit let down that nobody has pointed out the question to @Terry Harris of exactly how is "everyone" buying "at above market prices" when the very definition of Market Price is the amount for which something can be sold in a given market?
Above market price = not selling, selling = at market price, selling fast & for more than listing = below market offering.
So your actual question and issue is why are homes selling for more than you think they are worth, correct?
Wow, never looked at it like that! Thank you for the insight. And yes that should be the actual question.
Real Estate Broker · Bakersfield, CA · Member since 2018 · 269 posts · 597 votes
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Sure, whatever a property sells for on the open market is "market price" at that moment, however markets can also certainly become completely irrational. Recognizing this in 2006 saved me from financial ruin. Median home prices in Bakersfield STILL have not passed the 2006 peak. A property being fairly priced "at market" and being a good investment are two entirely different things.
Investor · Dundee, OR · Member since 2016 · 104 posts · 162 votes
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Current supply and demand problem stems from too much regulation at the state level. Builders are facing huge costs in material, labor, permits, and hold over expenses.This has contributed to the high price on new homes and helped drive up the price of existing homes. This has also contributed to Less people wanting to be home builders. If the state wanted to do something about affordable housing or housing in general they would put all that tax money they take for study's and use it to reduce or eliminate building cost regulation. Bottom line, we need more affordable housing and the states need to incentivize that with out taxing the hell out of the people.
Oregon policy, cant build there, there might be a spotted frog or that tree is 200 years old, so please use 1/4 of your development ground for a green space, after that we will give you your overpriced SDC's.
My Brother builds small subdivisions in Aloha Oregon. I asked him why he dosnt build a 3/2/1500 square foot ranch. He said the county wont let me, zoning conflicts, so he builds 500k to 700k homes. Its more money for the county.
Investor · Bakersfield, CA · Member since 2015 · 161 posts · 46 votes
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@Jeff C. great point. Bakersfield's economy, focused in essential products and services has been resilient. We recently made the news as the 7th fastest recovering economy nationwide in 2020 from the economic sledgehammer of COVID-19. This, combined with the fact that people from California's 3 mega-cities are reconsidering the central valley with the advent of remote work, I think our market has more room for growth through the end of the year at least - not an economist, just my observations.
Rental Property Investor · Oklahoma City, OK · Member since 2017 · 1k+ posts · 694 votes
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@Dennis Cosgrave #3 is the biggest one I’ve noticed. In my market the prices are already low so sellers are just like “what will I have when I sell except a bunch of cash I don’t need and a tax bill??” Lol.
It will swing back, always does. It’s an interesting time though.