Tenant surprise! baby in a student house.

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six bedroom house that is rented exclusively to students. One of the tenants turned out to be pregnant but did not disclose her pregnancy when the lease was signed.

how do you deal with the other tenants complaints/concern over having a newborn as a house mate?

Well...I dont know the laws but I cant imagine you can kick someone out for having a baby lol

I had a couple that rented a home from me and paid on time all the time.  About 7 years later I was in viewing the house and noticed a baby.  Much better situation since it was a single-family situation and not students.  They stayed another 2 years until the 2nd baby came along and then they needed to move out to get a bigger place and they left the home immaculate for me.  

You can probably charge for the baby. The strange thing about babies is I can't understand why people complain about their crying and I don't think people should let the noise stop them from studying with the exception of when they are older and the parents don't and will not pay attention to their child's needs. Leave the poor baby and mother alone, and charge a little more if you think that is necessary. I have a lot of respect for a mother struggling to go to college and handle a baby. Its could be disastrous to the baby to throw it out.

I am 100% not a lawyer, but Im going to strongly urge not to do anything to a pregnant women both from a legal standpoint...but also a moral one

Originally posted by @Siobhan Cooney :

@Daniel Rosa Have the other tenants indicated that they are concerned about having a newborn? Or are you speculating about what might happen?

Some tenants have expressed their concerns. Mostly around a potential for crying and that not allowing them to sleep.

Originally posted by @Jack Orthman:

You can probably charge for the baby. The strange thing about babies is I can't understand why people complain about their crying and I don't think people should let the noise stop them from studying with the exception of when they are older and the parents don't and will not pay attention to their child's needs. Leave the poor baby and mother alone, and charge a little more if you think that is necessary. I have a lot of respect for a mother struggling to go to college and handle a baby. Its could be disastrous to the baby to throw it out.

The intention is not to "throw it out" lol. This situations in more of frugality then necessity on the students end. Regardless, there are still other students in the house who work and study full time. The intention of this post is to get advice on how to deal with the tenants in general as this situation will leave someone unhappy regardless of the outcome.

Your job is to enforce the lease, the tenants need to solve their own issues among themselves.  You do not need to be involved in this situation.  If the other tenants complain to you, let them know there has been no lease violation and taking any action would violate fair housing laws.

Sorry, but people, including students, can be selfish and lack wisdom. Students may complain about the baby, but many students study while music is playing and there are several other annoyances. If people want to be less-selfish they can block out the baby's noise just as they have to block out other nuisances.

The situation also depends on how well the mother of the baby respects the students wishes. If she lets the baby scream without trying to quiet the baby then you have a problem. 

I own several apartments and this situation happens very frequently where our tenants get pregnant and have babies that cry. When other tenants complain we will terminate the complainer's tenancy before the one with the baby. It has to be a horrible feeling for a new mother with a baby to be stressed about finishing school and where she is going to live.

Perhaps, you should have a meeting with all the students and explain that you hope they understand the situation and hope that everyone can get along as a family would and should. Maybe, you can ask how they would feel if they got pregnant and were thrown out and not able to complete their education.

I am guessing that the mother will move within a short time, anyway, because she probably has a thousand other issues i.e. taking the baby to doctors as many times as women have to, money problems, relationship problems, focusing on her own studying, babysitting problems and a lot more.

Originally posted by @Jack Orthman:

Sorry, but people, including students, can be selfish and lack wisdom. Students may complain about the baby, but many students study while music is playing and there are several other annoyances. If people want to be less-selfish they can block out the baby's noise just as they have to block out other nuisances.

The situation also depends on how well the mother of the baby respects the students wishes. If she lets the baby scream without trying to quiet the baby then you have a problem. 

I own several apartments and this situation happens very frequently where our tenants get pregnant and have babies that cry. When other tenants complain we will terminate the complainer's tenancy before the one with the baby. It has to be a horrible feeling for a new mother with a baby to be stressed about finishing school and where she is going to live.

Perhaps, you should have a meeting with all the students and explain that you hope they understand the situation and hope that everyone can get along as a family would and should. Maybe, you can ask how they would feel if they got pregnant and were thrown out and not able to complete their education.

I am guessing that the mother will move within a short time, anyway, because she probably has a thousand other issues i.e. taking the baby to doctors as many times as women have to, money problems, relationship problems, focusing on her own studying, babysitting problems and a lot more.

Your input coming from experience is very appreciated. The intention is not to evict this person but to find a way to manage the general atmosphere in the house hold.

given that this is not an apartment situation but a student house, do you think that it would be difficult to rent vacant rooms to new students once they find out that there is a newborn living in the house?

No! I don't think that is going to be a problem. I suppose, it depends on how you paint the picture and how well the mother takes care of the baby. Of course, I am hoping that someone does not have to share the same room with the baby. People have to love babies enough so they are not bothered. I get emotionally upset when I fly on an airplane when a baby cries and people complain. The poor baby probably has some medical problem i.e. infected and plugged ears. Throw the complainers off the plane!

Like I said in the last post. I will bet the mother leaves in a short time, anyway. Then, if you do nothing you won't have to make a decisions and be 'The Bad One'. Let nature take it's course. I think you are a much better landlord for asking and understanding. For being a nice and understanding person, your Karma will reward you. 

Originally posted by @Jack Orthman:

No! I don't think that is going to be a problem. I suppose, it depends on how you paint the picture and how well the mother takes care of the baby. Of course, I am hoping that someone does not have to share the same room with the baby. People have to love babies enough so they are not bothered. I get emotionally upset when I fly on an airplane when a baby cries and people complain. The poor baby probably has some medical problem i.e. infected and plugged ears. Throw the complainers off the plane!

Like I said in the last post. I will bet the mother leaves in a short time, anyway. Then, if you do nothing you won't have to make a decisions and be 'The Bad One'. Let nature take it's course. I think you are a much better landlord for asking and understanding. For being a nice and understanding person, your Karma will reward you. 

 Hey Jack, Part of my last reply to your comment was lost at the bottom of your comment. As someone that has dealt with a similar situation I appreciate your input. My general approach to dealing with tenants is to think as logically as possible but consult compassion prior to making any decision. 

I think and hope that the tenant will be a good mother. To give a bit more in site to the situation...the tenant in a student who has a husband that lives abroad. Her income comes from her teaching job at the school she also studies at plus from her husband. She would have been about 7 months pregnant when she signed the lease. The lease was recently signed so this tenant intends on raising her child in the student house (all common spaces are shared with 5 other tenants). Also, I expect that her husband will also be visiting regularly from abroad to see his new child.

Again, my intention is not to evict her but I think it is prudent to consider the possibility that the house (which is only operational if the rooms are rented) suddenly is not appealing to other students and prepare for this outcome if it were to happen.

@Daniel Rosa please be a human and help that young mother and her baby I can’t imagine this type of Housing will the right fit for a new born but their are resources (depending on location) for student parents that might help her find a better student-parent Housing for her and her baby.

@Daniel Rosa   My guess is the situation will solve itself once classes start and students have parties/play music.  For future, you can add a clause that limits the occupancy of each room to 1 person (and if you want a guest for a max of 2 nights per month or something similar).

It sounds like she's a grad student (teaching and taking classes). 

Damn! To this newbie, this comes down to a decision based on values and beliefs more than a business issue. I would seriously question the values of any tenant that would raise issues around the noise from a newborn in that house. If I could afford to be so picky, I would ask that the tenants try to be understanding of the fact that one of their roommates has a lot on their plate. As a parent, I am sympathetic. There have been times where I have given away my services and the feeling I got from helping others less fortunate was better that the extra income. Of course, you have to ensure that you are not being taken advantage of.

Originally posted by @Naima Farah :

@Daniel Rosa please be a human and help that young mother and her baby I can’t imagine this type of Housing will the right fit for a new born but their are resources (depending on location) for student parents that might help her find a better student-parent Housing for her and her baby.

 thanks for your reply.  in thinking of this issue I have actually reached out to some community people to see if there are social programs to help with this. This tenant is an international student so I dont know if she would qualify for social assistants. I will continue to dig around and see if there are social programs that can help. 

My backup option is to try and switch her to a different room in the house that does not share any walls with other bedrooms. this will definitely not stop all the noise but it should help a bit

@Daniel Rosa , you might try to check with someone who is a specialist in fair housing laws.  I am not sure you can raise rent or evict based upon having a baby.  I do know you cannot discriminate based upon someone renting having children.  While I am not suggesting you intend to do that, it has been suggested by some folks.  It would be better to know your rights and duties before you ever talk to the pregnant student or even the other students in the house before you say something that might get you in trouble.  I am sorry that I don't know the rules here and your state might have  specific laws folks are not aware of.  Be safe and good luck.

Originally posted by @Theresa Harris :

@Daniel Rosa  My guess is the situation will solve itself once classes start and students have parties/play music.  For future, you can add a clause that limits the occupancy of each room to 1 person (and if you want a guest for a max of 2 nights per month or something similar).

It sounds like she's a grad student (teaching and taking classes). 

correct on the grad student. the house is not really a party house. all the students either take an increased course load or work full time and go to school full time. I have never heard of there being a party at the house. lol

Originally posted by @Daniel Rosa :
Originally posted by @Theresa Harris:

@Daniel Rosa  My guess is the situation will solve itself once classes start and students have parties/play music.  For future, you can add a clause that limits the occupancy of each room to 1 person (and if you want a guest for a max of 2 nights per month or something similar).

It sounds like she's a grad student (teaching and taking classes). 

correct on the grad student. the house is not really a party house. all the students either take an increased course load or work full time and go to school full time. I have never heard of there being a party at the house. lol

That's good, but bad at the same time :) Hopefully they will work it out. 

Originally posted by @Theresa Harris :

@Daniel Rosa  My guess is the situation will solve itself once classes start and students have parties/play music.  For future, you can add a clause that limits the occupancy of each room to 1 person (and if you want a guest for a max of 2 nights per month or something similar).

It sounds like she's a grad student (teaching and taking classes). 

correct on the grad student. the house is not really a party house. all the students either take an increased course load or work full time and go to school full time. I have never heard of there being a party at the house. lol

I thought about this all last night. At first, I was thinking that she was a student who probably got pregnant and was not married. Since she is married the situation is entirely different and she never should have rented a room at a student housing facility. She cannot expect to use this room the same as an apartment where a person is starting a whole family where the husband will visit and make have sex and make noises and bother the other students.

I would have not problem giving her a Notice To Terminate her tenancy asking her to leave within 30 days or whatever your state law requires. Then, if she is not out in 30 days I would file a formal eviction. You can't have someone using a student housing room for an apartment.