House Hacking Expensive Markets - Redondo Beach

House Hacking Expensive Markets - Redondo Beach

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I'm looking to house hack in the South Bay (Redondo, Hermosa, Manhattan Beach) which is a fairly expensive market. I was renting there for several years but now own a house down in Long Beach. I am looking at 2-4 units in the 1.5mil-2mil range. I will probably convert my primary into a mid term rental as I ideally don't want to sell with my sub 3% interest rate.

Any tips on house hacking in a more expensive market? I obviously know I will not be living rent free so I am comfortable coming out of pocket $4-5k a month. Are there any loan products you have seen that require less than 20% down? How hard will it be to qualify for a loan if the mortgage is ~10k a month? I have 2 rentals in Florida which I bought in 2022 and 2023 so I won't have 2 years tax returns to show and my primary obviously won't have any mid term rental history. I am not looking to move for approximately 6-12 months but at this point down payment would something like $100k cash, $120k HELOC, $100k 401k loans, rest from family. Cash could fluctuate up or down depending timing.

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Real Estate Broker · Colorado Springs, CO · Member since 2019 · 388 posts · 326 votes
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@Taylor Stone You can still do a FHA and even 5-10% conventional loans in expensive markets. If you bought in an area that would be good for a STR or MTR I would try to do that to help with the mortgage coverage.

If you go for 3-4 units the typically require 75% the rent of the other units to cover the mortgage. Some lender may be different so talk to a few lenders to see what options they have and which one is going to be the best to help you in this situation. 

Good luck!

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    Real Estate Broker · Colorado Springs, CO · Member since 2019 · 388 posts · 326 votes
    3y

    @Taylor Stone You can still do a FHA and even 5-10% conventional loans in expensive markets. If you bought in an area that would be good for a STR or MTR I would try to do that to help with the mortgage coverage.

    If you go for 3-4 units the typically require 75% the rent of the other units to cover the mortgage. Some lender may be different so talk to a few lenders to see what options they have and which one is going to be the best to help you in this situation. 

    Good luck!

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  • Lender · Washington DC · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    3y

    Primary what type of loan and when closed?

    You have to qualify using the HELOC with the Principle and Interest. I suggest drawing on it before lender closes it down as in last crash.

    $10 K you need 25-30 K monthly income depending on if you have vehicles, credit cards, student loans...

    Jumbo you need EXCELLENT FICO score. Pay perfect from now forward.

    You will need lease and deposit check on Long Beach at closing.

    You have a W-2 job?

    When you file 2022 return do not maximize write offs above 25% which is the haircut given.

  • Member since 2022 · 4 posts · 0 votes
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    Quote from @Caroline Gerardo:

    Primary what type of loan and when closed?

    You have to qualify using the HELOC with the Principle and Interest. I suggest drawing on it before lender closes it down as in last crash.

    $10 K you need 25-30 K monthly income depending on if you have vehicles, credit cards, student loans...

    Jumbo you need EXCELLENT FICO score. Pay perfect from now forward.

    You will need lease and deposit check on Long Beach at closing.

    You have a W-2 job?

    When you file 2022 return do not maximize write offs above 25% which is the haircut given.

    Primary conventional 30 yr fixed.

    My wife and I have approx 25k monthly pre-tax income though maybe not from lender perspective (ie last 2 years W2) - no student loans and cars we own outright. Credit cards are paid to $0 every month.

    Both credit scores 750+

    I want to mid-term rent the LB house so won't have deposit or lease.

    Yes both of us W-2.

  • Real Estate Agent · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2019 · 302 posts · 163 votes
    3y

    Hi Taylor, 

    To Househack in a more expensive market I recommend doing a combination or househack/live in flip. Buy one of the cheaper homes in a neighborhood, and then fix it up while living in it. Possibly build an adu to help increase your rental income for the property. Do this about every 3-5 years and slowly build a solid portfolio.

    For low down payment options, you may be eligible to use an FHA loan on a single family with ADU or Duplex to help get into something. At the moment FHA loan limits for Duplexes is about $1.4 million, and you may be able to find something in those areas for around that amount. Please reach out if you have any questions.

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