You guys I finally made it happen…

You guys I finally made it happen…

New to Real Estate · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2017 · 16 posts · 24 votes

As you all know, higher interest rates made house hacking way harder. Duplex’s are priced (at least in SE PA) where you can maybe cover half your mortgage. I was turned on to assumable mortgages just by the luck of a random conversation.

I set out looking for duplex's for sale that were currently under FHA loans (all government loans are assumable) and finally found a place where the sellers had a sub 3% interest rate and were open to the unconventional sales process.

IT TOOK 8 FRICKEN MONTHS!!!

luckily the sellers hated the marketing and open house process and hung in there while we worked it out.

It cost me a total of 141,000 including closing costs to take over the house at a $410,000 purchase price and I assumed their 2.375% loan with 25 years left on the mortgage. My monthly payment is about $2,000 and each side of the duplex should rent for $1,800 to $2,200. 

It’s not exactly a home run but after finding bigger pockets 8 years ago and grinding trying to make something work I finally feel like I made the first step.

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MD/DC · Member since 2024 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
1y

Even considering an acceptable amount of fixed interest on your outlay if you can gross 4k month this sounds like a home run to me especially for your 1st deal. 

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  • MD/DC · Member since 2024 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    1y

    Even considering an acceptable amount of fixed interest on your outlay if you can gross 4k month this sounds like a home run to me especially for your 1st deal. 

    • New to Real Estate · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2017 · 16 posts · 24 votes
      1y
      Quote from @Jules Aton:

      Even considering an acceptable amount of fixed interest on your outlay if you can gross 4k month this sounds like a home run to me especially for your 1st deal. 

      Thank you! I figured a home run would be if the rent from only 1 of the 2 units covered the entire monthly payment but I guess in the current market it’s a pretty awesome deal. If you factor in the rent I pay currently then I am making out pretty good. 
  • New to Real Estate · Raleigh, NC · Member since 2018 · 33 posts · 29 votes
    1y

    Congratulations Lyle! For your first deal and in this market where it is difficult to find anything that cash flows, I'd count this as a big win!

    I am in a similar boat where I am looking for my first house hack, but it seems near impossible to find right now. I also recently learned about assumable loans, and I was curious what tools you used to find the assumable mortgage? I tried using Assumableloanfinder.com but it has been returning absolutely no results for me. Any suggestions?

    • New to Real Estate · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2017 · 16 posts · 24 votes
      1y
      Quote from @Tyler Warlow:

      Congratulations Lyle! For your first deal and in this market where it is difficult to find anything that cash flows, I'd count this as a big win!

      I am in a similar boat where I am looking for my first house hack, but it seems near impossible to find right now. I also recently learned about assumable loans, and I was curious what tools you used to find the assumable mortgage? I tried using Assumableloanfinder.com but it has been returning absolutely no results for me. Any suggestions?

      Hey Tyler. I used assumelist.com. It wasn’t the best website and it cost $50 per month to be able to see the approximate interest rate and amount of equity you’d need to buy out. In hindsight that $50/ month was way worth it since I landed a pretty good deal.

      It’s a really tricky thing because the mortgage can’t be too old and can’t be in a too high appreciating market because then the equity buy out will be too expensive but at the same time it can’t be too recent cause the interest rates are too high.

      If you could find a way to locate all FHA, USDA or VA loans from 2021 and reach out to homeowners to see if they are selling to willing to sell. I found 2021 was the sweet spot because the interest rates were still low but equity wasn’t too high.

      if you are just going to watch assumelist or other website you need to be patient because inventory is low for low interest rate houses (no one wants to bail on there 3% mortgage to take on a 6% mortgage). I almost gave up on a duplex and just assumed a single family instead but finally this one popped up and luckily the seller was cool with it.


  • Real Estate Broker · New York, NY · Member since 2020 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    1y

    That’s huge — congrats on sticking it out and making it happen. Most people would’ve walked away after a few months of back-and-forth, but you pushed through and landed an assumable at 2.375%, which is basically impossible to find now. 

    Even if the cash flow isn’t a monster, you locked in a long-term win and got in the game, which is the hardest part. Once those units are rented, you’re basically living close to free and building equity on someone else’s dime. Solid first step after all those years grinding — you should be proud of this one.

  • Real Estate Broker · New York, NY · Member since 2020 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    1y

    That’s a huge win, honestly. An assumable mortgage at 2.375% is gold in today’s rate environment, and the fact you stuck it out for 8 months to make it work shows the persistence it takes to get in the game. Even if it’s not a “grand slam,” you’re basically walking into cash flow with built-in equity and a financing setup people would kill for right now.

    A lot of folks talk about house hacking but can’t make the numbers work with current rates. You actually found a way to do it—and on your very first deal. That’s the kind of experience you can build on over time. Congrats on making the leap after 8 years of grinding—it’s not just a first step, it’s a solid foundation.

  • Jaron WallingPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Indianapolis, IN · Member since 2018 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    1y

    @Lyle M Smith Big win man! - Did you have to pay out the seller's equity position or something to get the deal done? 

    That cash-flow will be spectacular in a few years as rents creep up.  

    • New to Real Estate · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2017 · 16 posts · 24 votes
      1y
      Quote from @Jaron Walling:

      @Lyle M Smith Big win man! - Did you have to pay out the seller's equity position or something to get the deal done? 

      That cash-flow will be spectacular in a few years as rents creep up.  

      Thank you! Yes that’s the only downside besides the painfully slow mortgage process. The good news is since it was an FHA loan the seller only put a small down payment back in 2021. The bad news was appreciation was pretty massive since 2021 so I had to clear out my life savings to buy out his 130k of equity. Basically like putting a 30% down payment for a shorter loan and lower interest rate. My amortization schedule is nice cause it shows I’m already paying mostly principal. While a new 30 year loan is mostly interest in the beginning years.
    • Jaron WallingPro Member
      Rental Property Investor · Indianapolis, IN · Member since 2018 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
      1y
      Quote from @Lyle M Smith:
      Quote from @Jaron Walling:

      @Lyle M Smith Big win man! - Did you have to pay out the seller's equity position or something to get the deal done? 

      That cash-flow will be spectacular in a few years as rents creep up.  

      Thank you! Yes that’s the only downside besides the painfully slow mortgage process. The good news is since it was an FHA loan the seller only put a small down payment back in 2021. The bad news was appreciation was pretty massive since 2021 so I had to clear out my life savings to buy out his 130k of equity. Basically like putting a 30% down payment for a shorter loan and lower interest rate. My amortization schedule is nice cause it shows I’m already paying mostly principal. While a new 30 year loan is mostly interest in the beginning years.

       Nice!! This post just made my day. You worked hard for that 2.4% rate. Glad to see it pay off. 

      Nobody can predict the future but this property is launch pad. Congrats. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Elmira NY · Member since 2023 · 143 posts · 143 votes
    1y

    That is amazing! Always pays off to keep on it!

  • Tyler FoshePro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Los Angeles Area · Member since 2021 · 58 posts · 23 votes
    1y

    If that's not a home run it's definitely a triple! And it was your first at-bat! Congratulations @Lyle M Smith for closing on this amazing first deal. I have never seriously considered assumable mortgages but your approach of assuming a low-interest FHA loan is excellent. Well done!

  • Real Estate Agent · Kansas City · Member since 2018 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    1y

    I would call this a home run, nice property!

  • Gene K.Business Member
    NJ · Member since 2025 · 29 posts · 10 votes
    1y

    Congrats. Persistence pays off. Big win!

  • Aaron ZimmermanBusiness Member
    Accountant · Chicago, IL · Member since 2018 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    1y

    Congrats on the property! Very happy for you!

  • Real Estate Agent · Edmonton, AB · Member since 2023 · 10 posts · 7 votes
    1y

    That's definitely a win in my books!

    Where most people are stuck trying the same way and not being able to make the numbers work you were able to be creative and get the job done!

    I've never tried house hacking personally, but I do know the first deal is always the hardest. I hope you see you lock up many more in the future!

  • Investor · Coppell, TX · Member since 2018 · 311 posts · 166 votes
    1y

    Congratulations! 

    I first learned about assumable loans through Carton Sheets "No Money Down" course. Unfortunately, now it is very rare to find assumable loans. There was a time (as Carlton suggests), there were tons of such loans and almost anyone could take over them easily!

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