how do i make money on rent to own?

how do i make money on rent to own?

Real Estate Investor · boston, NH · Member since 2014 · 401 posts · 32 votes

i still dont really understand it

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Investor · Sherman Oaks, CA · Member since 2008 · 6k+ posts · 3k+ votes
12y

Okay a primer in lease options and options.

As an aside, if you are going to do a wholesale deal, you write it up as a "sale and purchase agreement" or a "straight option". You assign the deal for a fee.

Lease Options are 2 types: Lease Option Assignments where you lease and option as a principal and assign for a fee.

Sandwich Lease Options are RISKIER and don't do them if you are BROKE!. You have to pay the seller even if the tenant buyer stiffs you and damages the place! Have 3 - 4 months of rent in reserves.

Re Lease Option Assignments, there many pretty houses with little equity, or thin deals. These sellers are current with their mortgage and they want to be able to get the most amount of money out of their house without damaging their credit rating, and they don't want to do a straight rental.

It amazes me that people don't think of lease optioning and assigning the deal, and getting out of it, and making an assignment fee, like wholesaling. To me a lease option assignment (LOAs), or wholesaling lease options, or cooperative assignments, which is all the same thing, is one of the easiest and fastest ways to make money today.

It is NOW in May of 2014 a perfect storm with over 20 million houses having very little equity all of the United States. The sellers need some kind creative solution to their home sale situation.

Marketing: I look for landlords, listed houses with agents, expired listings, FSBOs, and houses that have been purchased between 2006 and 2008, at the top of the market. All these "boxes" to look into for houses that had very little equity and you can do a lease option assignment in 10 hours, make 3% with little hassles; I feel LOAs are one of the best opportunities today in most markets.

Even in a very expensive market like New York or San Francisco or Los Angeles, if you can be thin equity deal specialist, you can make 3%. 3% of $400,000 is $12K, not a bad payday.

On the buyer's side, you need to get the word out that you help people that been turned down for mortgage and still that their dream home today. You can do Meetup groups, flyers, free reports on craigslist, all sorts of things. And understand FHA and Conventonal Underwriting.

Re Dodd Frank, if it is a straight lease and pure option, and you assign it, you are generally good to go re: DF. I am still getting every TBer to a RMLO, I do not want my seller at risk down the road. It is overkill but I want to sleep at night.

In closing, when you compare this with the "needle in a haystack wholesaling", that takes 6 to 12 months with consistent direct mail marketing. I think that "subject to" and "lease option assignments" are both a lot easier and faster.

I did my first one in 1986, when interest rates were over 10%, well before many of BP nation have been born.

Hope that helps explain lease options.

Now go make 3%!

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  • Real Estate Investor · boston, NH · Member since 2014 · 401 posts · 32 votes
    12y

    sorry i reposted in different section. how do i delete ?

  • Real Estate Broker · Indianapolis, IN · Member since 2014 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    12y

    Are you talking about in an instance where you are the home owner or where you are doing like a "lease purchase/sandwhich"?

  • Real Estate Broker · Indianapolis, IN · Member since 2014 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    12y

    If it's an instance where you have gotten a home owner to sign an agreement with your monthly rental and what they will sell the home for in X amount of months. ex: You get home owner to agree to $500.00 a month and a purchase price of 80k within 3 years. You sign a contract with a tenant who wants to rent to own but at say $700.00 a month and purchase price of 90k.

    In my limited level of knowledge I believe that is the general concept.

    You net a cash flow of $200.00 a month and the mark up when sold.

  • Real Estate Investor · boston, NH · Member since 2014 · 401 posts · 32 votes
    12y

    @Ryan Dossey

    i think a sandwich lease option

    i dont own the home.

    i am broke and no job because of school currently. is lease optioning a good way to start RE? im going to be doing wholesaling also

  • Real Estate Broker · Indianapolis, IN · Member since 2014 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    12y

    Honestly Derrick it's not an area I know enough about to influence your decision. I'm only familiar with the theoretical concept not so much the application. Hopefully someone more knowledgeable than myself will chime in!

  • Real Estate Agent · Seattle, WA · Member since 2013 · 40 posts · 4 votes
    12y
    If you are the landlord you sell the option for a premium plus you collect money on rent.
  • Real Estate Investor · Burlington, VT · Member since 2010 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    12y

    @Account Closed

    "Is a lease option a good way to get started in real estate?". IMO - no, especially if you don't have any money. In most lease options, you're the one on the hook for the rent. If your tenant can't pay, how are you going to make the payments?

    - Tom

  • Investor · Sherman Oaks, CA · Member since 2008 · 6k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    12y

    Okay a primer in lease options and options.

    As an aside, if you are going to do a wholesale deal, you write it up as a "sale and purchase agreement" or a "straight option". You assign the deal for a fee.

    Lease Options are 2 types: Lease Option Assignments where you lease and option as a principal and assign for a fee.

    Sandwich Lease Options are RISKIER and don't do them if you are BROKE!. You have to pay the seller even if the tenant buyer stiffs you and damages the place! Have 3 - 4 months of rent in reserves.

    Re Lease Option Assignments, there many pretty houses with little equity, or thin deals. These sellers are current with their mortgage and they want to be able to get the most amount of money out of their house without damaging their credit rating, and they don't want to do a straight rental.

    It amazes me that people don't think of lease optioning and assigning the deal, and getting out of it, and making an assignment fee, like wholesaling. To me a lease option assignment (LOAs), or wholesaling lease options, or cooperative assignments, which is all the same thing, is one of the easiest and fastest ways to make money today.

    It is NOW in May of 2014 a perfect storm with over 20 million houses having very little equity all of the United States. The sellers need some kind creative solution to their home sale situation.

    Marketing: I look for landlords, listed houses with agents, expired listings, FSBOs, and houses that have been purchased between 2006 and 2008, at the top of the market. All these "boxes" to look into for houses that had very little equity and you can do a lease option assignment in 10 hours, make 3% with little hassles; I feel LOAs are one of the best opportunities today in most markets.

    Even in a very expensive market like New York or San Francisco or Los Angeles, if you can be thin equity deal specialist, you can make 3%. 3% of $400,000 is $12K, not a bad payday.

    On the buyer's side, you need to get the word out that you help people that been turned down for mortgage and still that their dream home today. You can do Meetup groups, flyers, free reports on craigslist, all sorts of things. And understand FHA and Conventonal Underwriting.

    Re Dodd Frank, if it is a straight lease and pure option, and you assign it, you are generally good to go re: DF. I am still getting every TBer to a RMLO, I do not want my seller at risk down the road. It is overkill but I want to sleep at night.

    In closing, when you compare this with the "needle in a haystack wholesaling", that takes 6 to 12 months with consistent direct mail marketing. I think that "subject to" and "lease option assignments" are both a lot easier and faster.

    I did my first one in 1986, when interest rates were over 10%, well before many of BP nation have been born.

    Hope that helps explain lease options.

    Now go make 3%!

  • Real Estate Investor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2013 · 9 posts · 1 vote
    12y

    Hi All, check out the below Bigger Pockets podcast. Wendell provided some GREAT info about how to get started using a rent to own strategy when you have little available funds to work with. Great show! Hope this helps...

    BP Podcast 065: Creative Investing, Mistakes, and Bulletproof Vests with Wendell De Guzman

  • Wholesaler · Dallas, TX · Member since 2014 · 137 posts · 28 votes
    12y

    @Brian Gibbons is the man!

    I approve his message.

  • Investor · North Richland Hills, TX · Member since 2011 · 789 posts · 403 votes
    12y

    @Account Closed

    It amazes me that people don't think of lease optioning and assigning the deal, and getting out of it, and making an assignment fee, like wholesaling. To me a lease option assignment (LOAs), or wholesaling lease options, or cooperative assignments,which is all the same thing, is one of the easiest and fastest ways to make money today.

    BOOM BABY!!!

    what @Brian Gibbons said....

    The only money I spent when starting off was $97 for @Michael Carbonare manual and a $700 long distance call to @Brian Gibbons

    because he lived in NZ. I'm still making payments on the $97 manual...

  • Real Estate Investor · boston, NH · Member since 2014 · 401 posts · 32 votes
    12y

    @John Jackson

    do i need money to cover their rents?

    i only have $300 to my name so i was going to start out by wholesaling

    edit: nevermind u answered that.

  • Real Estate Investor · boston, NH · Member since 2014 · 401 posts · 32 votes
    12y

    @Brian Gibbons

    thanks brian. i think i would need to take a class for this. its really confusing to me

  • Investor · North Richland Hills, TX · Member since 2011 · 789 posts · 403 votes
    12y

    @Account Closed can vouch for this...AS I type I'm putting contracts together for 4 houses...lease option assignments...one will net me $5800, another is $7500 and the other two are smaller but I'm doing them as a favor so they are only $3500 each.

    Guess what I risk? $10 each for option consideration.

    Do you have $10? It looks like you do.

    I don't cover rents...that is a SLO or sandwich leads options where you stay in the deal...think of "subletting an apartment" Brian already mentioned SLO's above. This is where we lock it up and assign it...

    Think of wholesaling JUST LIKE BRIAN SAID...When I lock up a property with a purchase contract...I'm not buying it...I'm selling paper...to the end cash buyer...

    In this case...you are selling paper to the end tenant/buyer...

    In real estate paper is your friend.

  • Investor · Sherman Oaks, CA · Member since 2008 · 6k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    12y
    Originally posted by @John Jackson:
    @Account Closed

    One Minute Millionaire baby

    http://www.amazon.com/The-One-Minute-Millionaire-Enlightened/dp/0307451569

    Read it, live it, surround your self w like minded people, pay it forward.

  • Investor · North Richland Hills, TX · Member since 2011 · 789 posts · 403 votes
    12y

    It's still on my shelf!

  • Investor · North Richland Hills, TX · Member since 2011 · 789 posts · 403 votes
    12y

    @Account Closed if you go to [REMOVED] and look at any property there..we are making the option fee you see listed.

    We have nothing at risk.

    We are assigning our contract.

  • Investor · Sherman Oaks, CA · Member since 2008 · 6k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    12y
    Originally posted by @John Jackson:
    @Account Closed

    Hey John,

    Did I ever tell you I did a lease option in Auckland NZ and made $100K over best cash offer? 2006.

    http://www.biggerpockets.com/articles/2048-how-to-save-a-rent-to-own-deal-and-make-1-extra-

  • Investor · Sherman Oaks, CA · Member since 2008 · 6k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    12y

    If anyone would like 15 minutes 1 on 1 mentoring FOR FREE on

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    Cmon people, make some money!

    The season is now! Before Sept 1 2014, when school is in session!

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