could i start by flipping?

could i start by flipping?

Real Estate Investor · boston, NH · Member since 2014 · 401 posts · 32 votes

would you ever do a flip where you arent getting that 20k profit?

basically i am wondering, that if i could not find a buyer because they werent making enough profit... could i flip it myself to just make 5k?

if i could find 200% of the funding somehow?

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Investor · Lehigh Valley, PA · Member since 2008 · 97 posts · 38 votes
12y

Most HML's will only loan up to 70% LTV, some only 65% and that's off the ARV. That said, they usually want you to have some "skin in the game" as well unless it's an amazing deal. Say you could be all in on a house for 50-60% of the ARV they may fund you 100% of the deal, but numbers would have to be pretty solid.

As far as the 5k profit.....that's not enough spread for the HML to lend on. You should find a good HML lender and see if you can walk through some of there current projects and see the numbers for yourself. They will tell you exactly what will work and if you find a deal that they will lend on, you know it's a good deal.

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  • Real Estate Investor · boston, NH · Member since 2014 · 401 posts · 32 votes
    12y

    i can use multiple hard money lenders right?

  • Rental Property Investor · Arlington, TX · Member since 2012 · 788 posts · 640 votes
    12y

    $5K is way to small of a profit for a buy, rehab and retail.  There are always unexpected cost that arise during rehab.  With that said I have purchased and sold properties with profits under $10K but my basis is usually under $70K. 

  • Contractor · Scottsdale, AZ · Member since 2010 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    12y

    You don't want to buy a property for flip that you only expect a $5k return on. Have you factored in all holding costs (cost of money, utilities, taxes, insurance), as well as agent fees on the sell?

    One unexpected expense could easily put you in the red.

    There's a reason nobody else is buying it..

  • Urbana, IL · Member since 2012 · 1k+ posts · 425 votes
    12y

    I agree with others. If you're seeing a 5k as you run the numbers that leaves you no oops factor. You want an oops factor. 

    Don't worry about those deals where the seller isn't motivated. Wait it out a few months, if this is the case, and approach them afterwords.

  • Investor · Lehigh Valley, PA · Member since 2008 · 97 posts · 38 votes
    12y

    Most HML's will only loan up to 70% LTV, some only 65% and that's off the ARV. That said, they usually want you to have some "skin in the game" as well unless it's an amazing deal. Say you could be all in on a house for 50-60% of the ARV they may fund you 100% of the deal, but numbers would have to be pretty solid.

    As far as the 5k profit.....that's not enough spread for the HML to lend on. You should find a good HML lender and see if you can walk through some of there current projects and see the numbers for yourself. They will tell you exactly what will work and if you find a deal that they will lend on, you know it's a good deal.

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