Abandoned homes, contacting homeowners & contracting the deal.

Abandoned homes, contacting homeowners & contracting the deal.

Wholesaler · Nashville, TN · Member since 2015 · 44 posts · 3 votes

I found a property that seems to be an awesome deal, but I think it's abandoned; it's in an area that I visit a lot and I haven't seen anybody enter or leave the property in months. I even knocked on the door for about 10 minutes on a whim, hoping to confirm our disprove my thoughts. 

How would I go about contracting the property? 

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Lender · Greater LA/Orange County area, CA · Member since 2012 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
10y

I've posted on this exact topic no less than 200 times. The methodology never changes.

You need to determine if it's worth chasing. You are either trying to buy equity or cash flow at a discount. Keep that in mind.

Here is your research format: PETIO

Property - determine as-is and ARV (after repaired value)

Equity - research recorded mortgages (and liens) to estimate debt

Title - research chain of title to determine record owner and if living or deceased.

Interest(s) - If your record owner is deceased, these would be their legal heirs

Opportunities - These are the various ways that you might extract all profits.

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  • Realtor · Fort Lauderdale, FL · Member since 2016 · 271 posts · 144 votes
    10y

    Try public records. Find out who owns property. Maybe you can track them down through social media or find a relative to reach them.

  • Lender · Greater LA/Orange County area, CA · Member since 2012 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    10y

    I've posted on this exact topic no less than 200 times. The methodology never changes.

    You need to determine if it's worth chasing. You are either trying to buy equity or cash flow at a discount. Keep that in mind.

    Here is your research format: PETIO

    Property - determine as-is and ARV (after repaired value)

    Equity - research recorded mortgages (and liens) to estimate debt

    Title - research chain of title to determine record owner and if living or deceased.

    Interest(s) - If your record owner is deceased, these would be their legal heirs

    Opportunities - These are the various ways that you might extract all profits.

  • Wholesaler · Nashville, TN · Member since 2015 · 44 posts · 3 votes
    10y

    @Chris Boyd thanks! I'll give that a try. 

  • Wholesaler · Nashville, TN · Member since 2015 · 44 posts · 3 votes
    10y

    @Rick Harmon thanks for a clear outline of action!

  • Investor · Des Moines, IA · Member since 2015 · 380 posts · 201 votes
    10y

    What makes you think it's an awesome deal? Do you know what's owed on it?

  • Wholesaler · Nashville, TN · Member since 2015 · 44 posts · 3 votes
    9y

    @Rick H. I've been following up on the property for about 2 months now and can't get in contact with the Executor of the Estate, only the owner's grandson. The owner is elderly and sick and his sister has the Power of Attorney. I feel that she would sell, but I haven't been able to get her number to get in contact with her (the grandson doesn't have it and doesn't live in-state). How do I proceed?

  • Wholesaler · Nashville, TN · Member since 2015 · 44 posts · 3 votes
    9y

    @Chase Gochnauer The house is a definite tear down, and there are recent sales for new builds that make it a good deal. From the records on the assessor's site, all the taxes seem to be up to date. There may be codes liens. 

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    Rental Property Investor · Brookville, OH · Member since 2016 · 488 posts · 363 votes
    9y

    Use findtheseller. com if you are only doing one deal.  if you plan on doing multiple skip traces I will sign up for beenverified.com.  These services will help you to locate owners and relatives of owners.  

  • Wholesaler · Nashville, TN · Member since 2015 · 44 posts · 3 votes
    9y

    I don't believe the grandson is delivering my messages. How would I go about tracking down the attorney and executor of the estate?

  • Real Estate Investor · Shelton, WA · Member since 2013 · 369 posts · 639 votes
    9y

    @DaVon Brooks You can always shoot me the address and ill find 'em! lol  Check with the court clerk. If there's an actual executor appointed to manage the estate, it's been filed with the court. 

  • Lender · Greater LA/Orange County area, CA · Member since 2012 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    9y

    I admire your persistence!

    If you are certain that the opportunity has merit (in other words, at least 50% now, as-is).

    Then, you must decide how much you are willing to risk pursuing this potentially valuable opportunity. 

    In order to do this intelligently, you must understand the numbers. After all, you are in the business of solving problems profitably.

    If this property is owned by a deceased person, you need to confirm that an open probate has enpowerred a PR (executor or administrator) to be responsible for the asset, debt and equity of the heirs or beneficiaries. 

    The contact information for the PR is typically of public record in the case file AT THE COURTHOUSE. I suggest you don't waste time attempting to contact the attorney. I can assure you that you have a 99.5% chance of being considered an unwelcome pest by the attorney and their staff.

    Now comes the "risk money" part. Are you willing to spend real money to skip trace your target? You'd better be sure it's the right target first!

    Would you risk $10? $25? Or $100? To have a skip tracer locate and get direct contact info for your target?

    I used to routinely spend an average of $1,000 per (well-qualified) opportunity knowing that only 20% (one out of five) would convert to a deal. 

    My logic: If it cost $5,000 to convert and close one very profitable deal ($1,000 X 5) and I made $100,000 per deal net/net profit, I would do this all day long. 

    And I did! I performed this play many times over which is why I can afford to live as well as I do.

    Plan your work and work your plan but don't plan the results!

  • Wholesaler · Nashville, TN · Member since 2015 · 44 posts · 3 votes
    9y

    @Account Closed as the deal stands I wouldn't want to spend more than $100 to track down the owner and/or his POA.

    It is particularly frustrating seeing a deal with cash to be made falling to the way-side. However, that means I need to work on my lead pipeline (already happening). Thanks for all of the input guys!

  • Lender · Greater LA/Orange County area, CA · Member since 2012 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    9y

    For others: Someone Will spend the money to skip trace principals and do the deal. 

    It's like treasure hunting. 

    Some do, some don't, some will, some won't. 

  • Wholesaler · Roanoke, VA · Member since 2015 · 277 posts · 95 votes
    9y
    I've been using Va's for a flat fee to do bulk skip tracing
  • Wholesaler · Nashville, TN · Member since 2015 · 44 posts · 3 votes
    9y

    @Shawn Crawley you say VA as in virtual assistant?

  • Wholesaler · Roanoke, VA · Member since 2015 · 277 posts · 95 votes
    9y
  • Wholesaler · Nashville, TN · Member since 2015 · 44 posts · 3 votes
    9y

    @Shawn Crawley Thanks for that insight!

    @Paul Amegatcher thanks for that site. I ordered my search tonight and I'm anxious to see the results.

    @Rick H. You are VERY correct and I couldn't sit and let that go, I took action. Hopefully it's fruitful. Either way thanks for the motivation!

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