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All Forum Posts by: Adelle Swan

Adelle Swan has started 2 posts and replied 17 times.

Quote from @Ty Ash:

Hi @Adelle Swan!

I'd recommend that you keep/start learning! Podcasts, Books, and Mentors you find by networking.

I'd pick up a copy of Set for Life by Scott Trench as it has a good framework for financial independence, especially for a newer investor. Real Estate is just a part of your total financial picture so don't become too focused on just real estate. You'll want to learn more ways to increase your income now and in the future, keep your expenses low, and take the difference to invest into assets, real estate/business.

As already mentioned above by @Dominick Galinis, a house hack will probably be one of the best strategies for you to get started and take action while giving you a great return because of the low % down needed to get started. Once you get to this point, make sure to run your numbers for both while living in the house hack (lowering your living expense to less than what it would be to rent in your area) and post move out where you need to be at least break even after accounting for your monthly payment + maintenance, capex, vacancy, property management.

Best of luck getting started! Here for you with any questions you have along the way!

 Hello @Ty Ash, Thank you so much! I will look into that book. :)

This is exactly what Swan Enterprises USA LLC Comprises of : REI and Business Investment. I have been in business since my teenage years and currently run a medical /health operation. Whilst I love what I do and business , my hope is to leave some legacy for mine and anyone to benefit from in the end. Thank you for lending a helping hand on the advise . What is it that you do ? Stay in touch !

Quote from @Ray Hage:

Hi Adelle. I generally agree with the others. As both as an investor and RE agent, I have seen a few people get in over their for their first investment. However, in our case, it sounds like you have very good people that your friend's have used for a fix and flip. I generally like a fix and hold as I have never sold a property though I may in the near future because I enjoy the long term appreciation gains, tax incentives and monthly cash flow. Based on the info you provided...if you can get a good deal on a duplex or triplex, I would aim for that and rehab it to higher end.


 Hi Ray!  Thank you ! Your advise is great! I agree with the others too and am certainly excited on a MF. :) All the best to you too.

Quote from @Billy Daniel:

My opinion is to go with the MF LTR. I like the stability and predictability that comes with it. I worry about STRs with the continuing rise in inflation and the Fed's aggressive actions. If we enter into a strong recession, vacations will be the first things off of people's "to do" list. However, I am not a STR investor so don't take my advice on that too seriously.

Hi @Billy Daniel, Thank you for taking the time to respond. I value your take on this. And yes the LTR seems a great option with some STR's on the side... Have a great Day !

Quote from @Dominick Galinis:
Quote from @Adelle Swan:

Hi all on BP!  Some advise is greatly valued please.  Anyone who has experience and who can offer sound investment advise.  I have access to a great lender and now the only thing is to buy the property.  The RIGHT one of course.  

I am looking at either a single family home to do STR (for max. income and cashflow) or a Multifamily LTR (triplex and up to even 12plex etc. ) In all circumstances the deal must work and everyone needs to get paid each month at the end of the day of course.

But what would you recommend is a better deal to start with to ensure I start of strong and well ? (all properties we look at will pass the BP deal analysis and check all the boxes for positive cash flow , COC , ROI, 50% rule etc.)

A) A SF doing a STR ? (to hold and is a start to our property portfolio.  A friend is doing this near my area and is making roughly $8-10K p/m on each of his 3 properties recently bought & rehabbed to high end finishes).     

B) A SF , Rehab and Flip? (to make a profit and gain more cashflow) and then do another. 

C) Multifamily of any kind, Rehab and LTR ? (to hold and again is a start to our property portfolio and for long term appreciation) . Here I will make a $350 COC return each month for example on a deal my son and I currently ran on the deal analysis. I am not too phased making money on this property now, as long as rest assured I know the lender and the down payment pvt. lender and all the holding costs etc gets paid each month for the length and longevity of this deal. Later on in 5 or so years I can sell the property or I can retain it, settle everyone or instead draw equity out of the property later on and find another great investment.


Thank you so much for this great Forum and in advance for your input!  Happy Investing ! 

God Bless ,  Adelle


 Hi Adelle!

first off, congrats on trying to make the first steps into the world of real estate. It’s going to be a wild ride, for sure.


I would definitely say for your first deal to steer clear of fix and flips on your first deal. Unless you have prior knowledge in the field, it could probably lead to more harm and headaches than good. 

Now, for LTR Vs STR. For your first deal I would ask you, what is your current living situation and would you be open to doing a house hack? I think the benefits of HH are immense and is truly investing with training wheels. If that's not in your wheel house, whether due to your current lifestyle or what have you, I would ask, what do you want to do? My first property (outside my househack) was STRs because I wanted the quicker cash flow so then I could scale my LTR portfolio. But that's just my preference. Some would recommend doing the LTR because it's a bit of a safer play atm with the recession looming and all of that. But, overall I would say it depends on your goals and what you want out of real estate

 Hi @Dominick Galinis, Thank you for your advise an input. Much valued. To answer, I am currently renting and I am avidly busy trying to get out of it by the end of this month in fact. A big rush but I am a go getter and business woman and drive myself to deadlines.  I am considering all avenues to immediately stop this renting thing for good, even temporary Rv'ing. This way I pay as little as possible but can concentrate on my investments and syndications.  I have a fab team together and we are all ready and geared up to get started. The construction teams for minor fixing up, (if need be) has tons of experience and work in affluent areas like Aventura , Fort Lauderdale , WPB etc. Everybody has some money to put in and I do have a hotel investor friend with fabulous advise and structure to offer me and thus learn key principles and skills. 

All advise and input is necessary so thank you and stay in touch. 

Quote from @Brett Voorhees:

Hey @Adelle Swan, I would personally avoid the rehab and flip if this is your first deal. Yes they can be profitable however, you can really run into some issues and for a first deal, it would be smart to mitigate risk as much as possible in my opinion. From the investors I have worked with in the area, (especially Lauderdale, Boca, Delray) I would say the multifamily market is going to remain incredibly strong and profitable. I have some investors that even are fine with paying more for those at the moment just because they have such a strong future especially in the state of FL. 

As far as going with a single family and doing STR, those can be extremely great investments as well. In the end I would do what lines up best with your long term goals. Many ways to achieve the same long term result.. just depends on what yours is.


My line of thinking is.. we know RE investing long term can bear tons of fruit. If you own 10 units and occupancy for some reason drops.. you can still get by with 60,70 or 80% occupancy. If for some reason something happens to that single family.. Profits can potentially go to zero for a period of time. Since I personally work these areas and am licensed, let me know if there is anything I can do. I get off market deals coming across my desk as well so if you are possibly interested, shoot me a message and we can stay in touch.

Best of luck to you!


 Hi Brett, 

Thank you so much for getting in touch and for the great tips! I really appreciate it!  I am thinking along the same lines and makes more sense overall. So even though I have a great lender in place for these MF's , they do ask for a 30% down.  I am okay with that , only thing is I do not want to take that down payment out of my savings of course. So another loan or syndication option will have to be structured here.... If you have any advise on this , I would value your feedback ! 

And yes let's stay in touch for sure thanks, shoot me those Off market deals.  I will mail PM you my email. I have great connections, and a friend involved in hotel skyscraper and other type investments also. A lot is going to be on the horizon for me (Swan Enterprises) for sure :) 

Quote from @Patrick Drury:

@Adelle Swan
Stay away from the rehab and flip if this is your first deal unless you're a contractor and have a few crews that can breeze through it at a really good price. If this is your first deal might be worth going with option C and building systems to manage properties that are LTR's then down the road get an STR which is more management intensive. You can use the systems you built to manage properties via LTR to help you with STR's vs jumping in head first and never having managed a property. You could also just have a manager for the STR and you wouldn't have to make those systems, but if you are local, you might want to manage it yourself.


 Hi Patrick, Thank you for your time and input. 

For the rehab, we have an excellent team of contractors, in hindsight will be using my friends contractors who prepared all his properties for the STR space. So that is not a problem.

I have managed my apartments for Airbnb STR previously so Im aware of how that works and goes. We do have a team who will manage that and all the cleanings etc if we decide on this route.

For the LTR or the STR options either way we will probably manage this first one ourselves yes. Thank you for your input :)

Hi all on BP!  Some advise is greatly valued please.  Anyone who has experience and who can offer sound investment advise.  I have access to a great lender and now the only thing is to buy the property.  The RIGHT one of course.  

I am looking at either a single family home to do STR (for max. income and cashflow) or a Multifamily LTR (triplex and up to even 12plex etc. ) In all circumstances the deal must work and everyone needs to get paid each month at the end of the day of course.

But what would you recommend is a better deal to start with to ensure I start of strong and well ? (all properties we look at will pass the BP deal analysis and check all the boxes for positive cash flow , COC , ROI, 50% rule etc.)

A) A SF doing a STR ? (to hold and is a start to our property portfolio.  A friend is doing this near my area and is making roughly $8-10K p/m on each of his 3 properties recently bought & rehabbed to high end finishes).     

B) A SF , Rehab and Flip? (to make a profit and gain more cashflow) and then do another. 

C) Multifamily of any kind, Rehab and LTR ? (to hold and again is a start to our property portfolio and for long term appreciation) . Here I will make a $350 COC return each month for example on a deal my son and I currently ran on the deal analysis. I am not too phased making money on this property now, as long as rest assured I know the lender and the down payment pvt. lender and all the holding costs etc gets paid each month for the length and longevity of this deal. Later on in 5 or so years I can sell the property or I can retain it, settle everyone or instead draw equity out of the property later on and find another great investment.


Thank you so much for this great Forum and in advance for your input!  Happy Investing ! 

God Bless ,  Adelle

Quote from @Micah Casey:
Quote from @Adelle Swan:
Quote from @Eduardo Bilbao:

Hi Micah, 

Here are two articles that I found useful after reading your forum post. 

https://www.hawaiiliving.com/b...

https://hnldoc.ehawaii.gov/hnl...

I did not have the time to go through Bill 41 since I am at work but you might be able to find the answer there. I will try to look into it next week when I am on vacations in Mexico. I recently moved to Oahu and have been looking at investing here. Let me know if you would like to connect or if you know about any meet ups. 

 Hi Guys, 

Please keep me posted on these developments also , if you don't mind. As we are looking to move to Maui or Oahu at some point next year or thereafter too. Will be nice to know the ins and outs and learn together with likeminded BP folk. ;) 

Best Adelle 


 Aloha Adelle, 

The weather is beautiful over here. You won't regret the move. Let me know if you have any questions. 


 Aloha Micah, 

Thank you for reaching out. I love island living , it's in my soul. I come from living on the beach my whole life so for me there is nothing else more worth it. Where about are you located ? And what do you do ?  Your profile says investor , so I assume you are in RE ... Best regards, Adelle

Quote from @Zach Johnson:

I am looking to begin in wholesaling real estate in Indiana. Any advice is highly welcomed and wanted. My biggest question is how do you know if a property is a deal or not. What do you look for to know if the property could potentially be a deal.


 Hi Zach ! Welcome. 

Use BP Deal calculator tools. Run Comps in your area of question and determine what homes are selling for.  Determine your Value once all is considered. These are the basics but a great starting point to get you going and familiar with different property prices and values.

All the best! 

Adelle 

Quote from @Eduardo Bilbao:

Hi Micah, 

Here are two articles that I found useful after reading your forum post. 

https://www.hawaiiliving.com/b...

https://hnldoc.ehawaii.gov/hnl...

I did not have the time to go through Bill 41 since I am at work but you might be able to find the answer there. I will try to look into it next week when I am on vacations in Mexico. I recently moved to Oahu and have been looking at investing here. Let me know if you would like to connect or if you know about any meet ups. 

 Hi Guys, 

Please keep me posted on these developments also , if you don't mind. As we are looking to move to Maui or Oahu at some point next year or thereafter too. Will be nice to know the ins and outs and learn together with likeminded BP folk. ;) 

Best Adelle