Originally posted by @Chris Virgilio:
Originally posted by @Andy Robison:
Hell I'd have a few CC's rolling around just so I can abuse that 0% financing.
But personally I'm trying to pay off my CC debt personally and leverage properties to make the most amount of money possible. I'd rather have 5 hoses with debt than 1 house with no debt. Scale is important to me.
I totally get that. I mean I wouldn't say it was exactly accurate that Dave Ramsey doesn't advocate becoming debt free just to go back in to debt. He does allow for people to take a mortgage on their first home. So we don't own a home. We are hoping for our first home to be a duplex or triplex so that we can pay it off faster and earn some extra income on the deal. I don't know if that really scales well, but it can't be a bad start can it?
one question. Why would you want to pay off your house faster? You lose tax advantages, and ways to shield your income and lower your tax bill at the end of the year. Try to get out of the consumer mind set, you want to CREATE wealth. Nobody gets wealthy by saving.
So lets play a mind game real quick. You make enough money to cover your bills and put $500/month into your investment nest egg. You've got enough for a 20% down on a duplex +other expenses I like simple numbers so I'll keep it simple but hopefully it'll make sense.
So you have a duplex you bought for $100k. It rents each side out for $800/month. You move into one side, and rent the other out. Covering the $750-ish mortgage/insurance/tax bill. Great! You are started. Lets say you were paying $1k/month in rent.
Now you have a duplex, great tennants, lower mortgage and still keeping that $500/month to build your nest egg again + another 350 from not renting out 1k/month any more. In 2 years nothing happens life is great, ideal situations. You now have enough for another duplex. Same deal. 100k purchase, after you fix some stuff you get $800/side. $1600 total. 750 mortgage +300 rainy day fund (because luck wont hold forever) Cashflow $550 from the new duplex. So now you have 160k in debt. But that debt is being paid for by other people. And that debt is generating you $550/month. You enter year four keeping strict budgets you still manage to keep putting $850 of your money into your nest egg and adding the $550/month from the other duplex. You have enough to buy another duplex same deal add another 550/month. and it scales, instead of one property a year you have a nest egg for purchases being bought every 6 months, then 3months etc etc . Now you and the wife have gotten a pay raise, and keep investing into your real estate company more money buy more properties until you have 10 duplexes generating $5500/month. or 66k a year lets say this took 9 years. Great you have 66k in income and your DTI is incredibly awesome. (crazy scenario and not likely to happen but illustrate the point of leverage) Then there is OPM tax benifits, putting 3-5% down instead of 20% and a whole slew of other things I wont touch on for a thought experiment.
Other hand, you buy one duplex, 20% down $100k purchase 750-ish mortgage. You manage to pay it off in 7 years. The duplex now generates $800/month free and clear. Which would you rather have?