All Forum Posts by: Austin Williams
Austin Williams has started 7 posts and replied 20 times.
Post: How Do I Know If I Made a Low Enough Offer?

- Wholesaler
- Indiana
- Posts 20
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Quote from @Bill B.:
I mean the assessed values mean nothing. Sometimes you might need to offer 100% over the assessed value. Sometimes you might be able to get the, below assessed value. You’re going to have to comb through 10’s if not 100’s of previous sales in the last 2-3 months of nearly identical properties to get an idea of what your target properties are worth. Probably the best thing you could do is go work for a wholesaler for 6+ months. Currently you’re essentially a peewee football kid asking the coach how to run circles around the professional defense.
If you tell a wholesaler the zip code, the SF, the bed/bath and condition they should have a ballpark in their head instantly. MAYBE they adjust that up or down 10% depending on outside factors but they’re not checking the assessed value.
Ps. I HOPE you misread the advice saying to offer 75-80% below asking price. I HOPE they meant 75-8o% OF asking price. (20-25% off). But even that doesn’t guaranteed a deal. They could be asking 20% too much.
Pps. Wholesalers can literally pay THE LEAST for any property. You have to find a property that isn’t for sale or nobody knows is for sale, or is in unlivable condition. Imagine a home “the market” thinks is worth $100k. You think you’re going to offer $30k or maybe $70k (if you misread the 70% off part of the bad advice you were given.). While the long term hold landlord would love to offer $85k. And the Short Term landlord might offer $95k-$105k because they’re going to make more income. But then in walks the owner occupant or the house hacker who “love the house” or the neighborhoods or the school district. And they offer $110k, or $120k. You will literally never get one offer accepted. (I was going to say except for the person who NEEDS to sell today. But you aren’t really a buyer, you can’t buy today. You can only promise to go look for a buyer.)
Wholesaling is often sold as the easy way to get started. It is not. It is the cheap way to get started. As long as you don’t count all the hours you work for free that you could have been earning money and learning. I truly wish you good luck, but please be ready to pivot to something else.
So you're saying you have a home valued at $100,000 and a home next door sold last month for $80,000 and another home in that area sold for $92,000. So the average in that area is $86,000. Would it be a good idea to start off by asking for $68,800 to the seller then charge accordingly to the buyer for that property with the potential of selling to a house hacker for $110,000?
I am not worried about buying right now and I am learning from talking to you as well, so all isn't a complete waste. I just don't want to be in a situation where I was not able to maximize the deal, where the seller and buyer potentially makes 50k in profit each, whereas I only get $500, because my initial offer was 'too good to pass up'. I'm not complaining, because it is still better than zero.
Post: How Do I Know If I Made a Low Enough Offer?

- Wholesaler
- Indiana
- Posts 20
- Votes 4
Quote from @Don Konipol:
Quote from @Austin Williams:
So I am doing my due diligence and running a bunch of Wholesaling Calculator reports to decide on my maximum allowable offer ($53,260) in order to get my desired return ($10,000) and the flippers ($30,000). So for example, I have this property the County did an assessment on and the value came back at $67,800. When I ran that same property in BP (preforeclosure) it gave me an EMV of $71,003 but, also on BP, in the 'Find Deals' tab, it gave an off-market value of $116,660 and on Zillow it is zestimated at $93,600. Most investors I come across say you should make your initial offer at least 75-80% below asking price.
So I am asking which price should I take the 75-80% off before making my offer?
Post: How Do I Know If I Made a Low Enough Offer?

- Wholesaler
- Indiana
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- Votes 4
Quote from @Bill B.:
The county assessed value means NOTHING. I don’t own one property I would sell for 30% over the assessed value.
About 10 - 15 years ago counties got sick of people contesting their property taxes. So they lowered the values 20-30% and increased the tax rate enough so that year property taxes dropped a couple dollars and nobody complained. But it eliminated any chance of them losing tax dollars to people who contested the values.
Post: How Do I Know If I Made a Low Enough Offer?

- Wholesaler
- Indiana
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- Votes 4
Quote from @John Teachout:
I have multiple properties I would gladly sell for the county assessed value. They've gone up beyond the point of reasonableness around here. That said, who in their right mind would sell a property for 80% below asking price? I think you're going to be spinning your wheels and going nowhere with this strategy.
Hello John, I am glad you would sell your property at the county assessed value. That just means for you I would need to make my initial offer below that. My goal is to not make my first offer so generous that the seller accepts it without making a counter offer.
Post: Entity Classification Election

- Wholesaler
- Indiana
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So I just created an LLC and it was formed with the State about a week ago so I have a little under 70 days left to decide which tax classification I would like to elect before it is defaulted as a disregarded entity, for a single owner.
What do you suggest is the best entity classification to choose from for a new, up-in-coming business owner to get the best balance between liability protection and tax advantages?
Post: Wholesaling Steps & Getting Under Contract

- Wholesaler
- Indiana
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Thank you @David Ramirez
I have been looking into Real Estate Investment Associations in my area to come across other like minded investors for better exposure. Also, when you said "an actual deal" do you mean having it under contract first then taking that to another investor?
Post: How Do I Know If I Made a Low Enough Offer?

- Wholesaler
- Indiana
- Posts 20
- Votes 4
So I am doing my due diligence and running a bunch of Wholesaling Calculator reports to decide on my maximum allowable offer ($53,260) in order to get my desired return ($10,000) and the flippers ($30,000). So for example, I have this property the County did an assessment on and the value came back at $67,800. When I ran that same property in BP (preforeclosure) it gave me an EMV of $71,003 but, also on BP, in the 'Find Deals' tab, it gave an off-market value of $116,660 and on Zillow it is zestimated at $93,600. Most investors I come across say you should make your initial offer at least 75-80% below asking price.
So I am asking which price should I take the 75-80% off before making my offer?
Post: Wholesaling Steps & Getting Under Contract

- Wholesaler
- Indiana
- Posts 20
- Votes 4
When starting off in wholesaling is it better to find a buyer or a seller first?
Also, when using a purchase-seller agreement, what should you include in the contract in case the buyer or seller decides to back-out at the last minute so you are not stuck with the "bill"?
Post: Building Credit with LLC

- Wholesaler
- Indiana
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- Votes 4
@Michael Coco Thank you for the insite.
Post: Building Credit with LLC

- Wholesaler
- Indiana
- Posts 20
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Hello,
I wanted to know if I have a below poor credit score would it be beneficial to first try to fix my credit or create an LLC and build my business credit to start investing in real estate and worry about my personal credit score later?
Thanks.