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All Forum Posts by: Bill W.

Bill W. has started 6 posts and replied 167 times.

Post: Ways to get ARV on non listed properties

Bill W.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Austin, TX
  • Posts 171
  • Votes 46
Originally posted by Shane Woods:

I'm only relating what I've read here and other places, that even Zillow is innaccurate for TX and other non-disclosure states. My understanding in TX is that even paid MLS subscribers like Zillow can only show/use the last list price in their online pricing models. Maybe I misunderstood.

Zillow does not use MLS data to compile comps. Redfin does and is available in Texas but not in all areas of the state. I use Redfin all the time and love it.

If Redfin does not provide MLS info in your area there may be other sites that do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_real_estate_websites

Post: Mobile Home Locator by County?

Bill W.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Austin, TX
  • Posts 171
  • Votes 46

I see youre in Texas and for our state there actually is away to do this with a decent margin of error. You can visit the state site's database here: http://mhweb.tdhca.state.tx.us/mhweb/title_view.jsp

From there you can search by Install County. The state database has a high error rate so take the information in the database with a grain of salt if it isn't consistent with other info you have.

Post: Abandoned Mobile homes - Do you even touch them?

Bill W.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Austin, TX
  • Posts 171
  • Votes 46

Eric,

Lonnie Dealers make money by using their cash to buy at a discount and selling on terms. This spread is how they make their profits.

Spending money and time rehabbing homes will greatly slow you down in turning profits.

There may be occasions that you should consider taking a complete junker and doing minimumal work to it to make it more marketable but generally speaking, you'll be better off passing off repairs to your buyer.

Post: Where to find mobile homes for sale?

Bill W.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Austin, TX
  • Posts 171
  • Votes 46
Originally posted by Mike Matthews:
I did the math and every year I pocket $48,000 raise over the last year just buying at this rate. 3 more years and I will make 25K a month cash flow.

Let me check these numbers. If you say you've increased profit $48,000, each year, we will assume the "each year" at a minimum of two years. So you made $96,000 last year buying mobile homes.

In this thread
http://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/30/topics/58435-absentee-lonnie-deals you say you're making $50,000 a year doing loans.

So last year you made a minimum of $146,000 by both selling mobile homes on payments and loaning on points while you spent a significant amount of last year out of the country on military tour?

Is that accurate or am I missing something?

Post: Title loans on mobile homes

Bill W.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Austin, TX
  • Posts 171
  • Votes 46

Dustin, I would suggest consulting with an attorney to determine if this is legal in your state. I had a similar idea last year and discussed it with a RE attorney in Texas. While he didn't say that it would be expressly forbidden, he did have concerns about its legality in Texas. I wound up going in a different direction and did not pursue the issue.

Bill

Post: How do you sell

Bill W.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Austin, TX
  • Posts 171
  • Votes 46
Originally posted by Mike Matthews:
No the park manager found me the home, that is why I am paying her a referral fee.




Understood.

As long as you're happy with the arrangement of making the PM a boat load of money at your expense, that would work

Post: How do you sell

Bill W.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Austin, TX
  • Posts 171
  • Votes 46
Originally posted by Mike Matthews:

Well that is Not a Rent to Own, if you ever sacrifice a title you are financing your home and you fall under the statutes of the SAFE ACT.

Safe Act doesnt say anything about whether transferring title has any impact on applicability.

In Texas, TDHCA regulation states that you transferring title into another's name constitutes a sale rather than a rental though but other guy does not live in Texas. I am pretty sure some states allow rent to own structure with transfer of title.

Originally posted by Mike Matthews:

As far as Referrals go.I just got a referal 2 hours ago from one of the parks I work. I will buying this 18 x 80 single wide for $500 plus moving expences. As agreed I move to the managers park. And pay her a $200 referal fee.

Home has 4 k in repairs All in less than 9K I will sell for $27,000 at 13% interest.

How do you like those #'s.



Your numbers are ok but I would probably pass. $9000 out of pocket, plenty of work overseeing the move and repair, and $500 a month until they default in two years which you state is your business model. I would imagine you'd do better if you cut your costs down and time investing in rehabbing/moving.

And you pay referral fees to PMs when you move a home to their park? Weird arrangement. Should be other way around. I know of some parks in my area that pay Lonnie Dealers up to $6000 to get homes in their parks. You might want to do some digging and see if you can find that arrangement in your city.

Post: Have a seller and a buyer

Bill W.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Austin, TX
  • Posts 171
  • Votes 46
Originally posted by Travis Hughes:
Here is Texas, mobile homes are regulated by the Department of Transportation - so it's not actually real estate, it is like buying and selling cars.

If you seller finance the mobile home to your buyer, and they become late or fail to pay, you simply reposes the mobile home, no difficult foreclosure proceedings.

In Texas they are actually regulated by Texas Department of Housing and Community Affairs. Buying and selling a MH in Texas has its own distinct set of rules and laws apart from real estate and cars.

http://www.tdhca.state.tx.us/mh/

Post: Have a seller and a buyer

Bill W.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Austin, TX
  • Posts 171
  • Votes 46
Originally posted by Billy W.:
Originally posted by Shari Peterson:
Hi Billy -- I am in Missouri too. I am a real estate investor who also is a licensed realtor. You do not need to be a licensed realtor to buy and sell real estate for yourself. Technically, I believe a mobile home is considered personal property and not real estate. I am not 100% sure on that but I think so. You can double check by going to the county assessor's website and inputting the address for a search. Regardless, I don't believe you need a license either way.


Thanks Shari,

That is exactly what I figured, but Lonnie mentioned a dealers license in his book so I thought I would ask.


Billy,

You are asking about whether you need to be a licensed dealer/retailer for manufactured homes. Shari responded about being a licensed real estate broker which is different. For your state, I don't know the answer but you'll need to do more digging to find out.

I would recommend googling your state name and "manufactured home agency" to find the state agency which regulates this.

Post: Minimum amount of repairs to complete on MH before selling

Bill W.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Austin, TX
  • Posts 171
  • Votes 46

Dustin, I'm of the mindset that selling them as fixer uppers is much more profitable.

Suppose you spend $1000 on repairs and increase the house's value by $1000.

One of two scenarios would happen. You'd sell the home for $1000 more and recoup that money during the last few month's of the note's life a few years later.

Or the buyer defaults before paying the additional $1000 built into the price to reflect repairs and you never get the money back. Now if it was carpet that you replaced, expect it to needs to be replaced again before you sell.

So best case scenario is you sell it faster but it takes you several years to recoup your money. Worst case scenario is that you never get that money back.

Suppose you start off with $10k to buy mobile homes. That $1000 you sank into each house could have gone towards buying another fixer. If you buy two or three homes and put that kind of repair money into it, you missed out on the opportunity to buy another home and create an additional note.

Money you spend should go towards making more money. Repairing homes to move in condition is counter productive to that goal.