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All Forum Posts by: Robert M.

Robert M. has started 10 posts and replied 96 times.

We are in Yamhill County at this time, however, we are no longer looking to expand our rental real estate portfolio as state law and cap rates have deterred us for now. 

K Falls is a great place and house hacking is an amazing tool. Best of luck to you and be sure to review ORS 90 laws. 

Oregon's Democratic regime passed the first state wide rent control earlier this year. Since the new law has been in effect there has been about a 38% decrease in multifamily investing. (https://pamplinmedia.com/pt/9-news/431988-340732-sources-rent-control-law-cools-investment-in-apartments-?wallit_nosession=1)

I recommend staying out of Multnoma county!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gov Brown just passed an additional list of rules for rentals in Multnoma.

 Must consider all felons, misdemeanors, credit scores below 499, past evictions, and landlord must finance deposit, new qualifying(low) income limits for applicant. Thats just a few of them, too many to list. If any tenant is denied for any of these reasons, a long legal certified letter must be written to the applicant as to why. Landlords are being sued left and right.  I wont even get into the new state laws concerning rent control and property management. Sorry to sound like a Debbie Downer, but people are leaving the business of Oregon rental realestate investing. Please do your research before you invest in Oregon rentals, its no longer landlord friendly.

Post: Bye Bye Dollar, Buy Buy Gold?

Robert M.Posted
  • Investor
  • Dundee, OR
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Originally posted by @Tom Makinen:

I have small gold bars that I would love to get rid of, find me a place that will take it without skimming 15% off the spot price.  

 Yep!

There is more money in the people looking for the gold than the gold its self.

 Don't forget the income tax associated with selling Gold. I've yet to pay any tax on my real state returns, and legally never plan to. 

Post: Oregon rent control deters multifamily investing

Robert M.Posted
  • Investor
  • Dundee, OR
  • Posts 99
  • Votes 158

 Oregon's Democratic regime passed the first state wide rent control earlier this year. Since the new law has been in effect there has been about a 38% decrease in multifamily investing. (https://pamplinmedia.com/pt/9-news/431988-340732-sources-rent-control-law-cools-investment-in-apartments-?wallit_nosession=1)

The new law seems to be adversely affecting single family investing as well. Several local Real estate brokers have indicated that most of the MLS listed entry point priced homes are/were rentals, investors are leaving the game permanently. The new owners/buyers of the SFH's tend to be owner occupants and must wait 90 plus days for the eviction process to take place before they can move in, but must make mortgage payments and find a place to live during those 90 days. Big government and overwhelming regulation can lead to unintended adverse consequences. Our states housing problems have become even more problematic due to this new law. I believe this will only lead to even more regulation in the near future.

What are your thoughts?

Post: 24 years old! Should I cash in Roth IRA to buy rentals?

Robert M.Posted
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  • Dundee, OR
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Originally posted by @Bjorn Ahlblad:

@Timothy E Sullivan I think you would be disappointed if you did not roll your IRA into a REI adventure. REI done properly and over the long term can easily out pace the Roth IRA.

 Agreed 

Dont forget to mention all the tax advantages of a Roth owned rental property. If in a Roth you should be income and capital gains tax free, that is the way I understand it. Real-estate should outpace the stock market. Be sure to buy right and you will do very well. Good luck and way to get after it at such a young age.

Post: If you could go back in time

Robert M.Posted
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  • Dundee, OR
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I would have plenty to say to my self if I could go back in time, just not sure if I would listen. I had different frame of mind than what I have today. 

Post: Young 20's investing - What are my advantages?

Robert M.Posted
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  • Dundee, OR
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When I first read your post, I thought I would tell ya to do what I know now, (much older than you) invest, save, be responsible, but then I started thinking about my 20's. LOL

Keep in mind that time is the number one asset that money cant buy. My advice is some what unorthodox as this is, bigger pockets. I had some of the BEST  times of my life when I was in my 20's. The adventure, crazy spontaneous ideas, and lack of responsibility is what keeps me smiling even today. Dont get me wrong, im extremely happy and doing very well, but living by the seat of my pants simply because time was on my side was a new adventure with minimal monetary ramification's.   My advice to you is, live to your fullest, have some fun with your youth, obligations and time tend to change things. Investing is great, but dont forget you're in your early 20's, you have plenty of time. 

Time is your advantage.

Post: Oregon, first state wide rent control

Robert M.Posted
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  • Dundee, OR
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Originally posted by @Steve B.:

@Richard Sherman it's not my understanding that rent raise limits are carried over between tenants for the same unit. Is that codified for apartments Nd SFR's?

 Once a tenant moves out of a unit there is no set rent price carried over to the new tenant. For example, tenant A moves out of a $1000.00 dollar a month property. The new tenant(B) is charged whatever the landlord wants, 2k month for example, but that new tenant now falls under all the new and current rent control laws. You will have up to the first year of occupancy to decide if you want the tenant, as no cause evictions still apply the first year. The new law applies to all rental properties except owner occupied and buildings newer than 15 years. I hope I answered that correctly as its the way I understand the new law. The new law is very confusing if you read all the fine print, many are going to have a tough time and will wind up being sued. There are a couple attorneys hanging out at the local courthouse during evictions in hopes to monetarily capitalize on the landlord mistakes, and they definitely do. Make sure you dot your eyes and cross them T's.

Post: Oregon, first state wide rent control

Robert M.Posted
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  • Dundee, OR
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Canby is a very nice area, you should do very well. If you are ever in Dundee the beer/wine is on me. 

Post: Oregon, first state wide rent control

Robert M.Posted
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  • Dundee, OR
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Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:
Originally posted by @Robert M.:
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:
Originally posted by @Robert M.:
Originally posted by @Johann Jells:
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:
Originally posted by @Johann Jells:
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

 Are you saying that hi density is allowed and encouraged?  Though I only visit the west coast, everything I've heard and seen is that nimby rules and no one wants any density, never mind midrise 5 or 6 floor apartment buildings in their neighborhood.  Even in my city, in the 6th densest county in the US, midrise is controversial, especially if they don't provide at least 1:1 parking spots.

Oregon is Very rural as a state there is less than 4 million people and 2 million live within 30 miles of downtown Portlandia. and so yes Portlandia encourage high density and so do other cities.. 

 Then why has supply not caught up to to demand, where's the friction for developers of dense affordable housing?

The zoning laws continue to disincentivize construction of multi family housing. A good example would be that current zoning laws require a min lot size of 20k sq foot to build a duplex. Why would a builder use private money to build a duplex on a lot that can have three or four single family homes built instead? Who's going to buy a 650k dollar duplex from the local builder? Does anyone wonder why I can build a SFH on a 5k lot but a Duplex requires a 20k lot? Things that make ya go, DOH! lol

20k sq ft must be a Newberg Dundee Mac Lafeyette rule.. its certainly not a city of Portland.   

  Newberg for sure. 

Dundee has over 100 acres of flat buildable farm land  in the city limits. The owners wants to sell, the builders want to build.  The city planner keeps messing with the two land owners by changing the zoning and lot sizes, so nothing gets sold to developers. The city planner wants builders to put in mobile home parks and very high density housing.  The landowners/builders want what was agreed upon several years ago. So im not sure exactly what the hell is going on with zoning in Dundee, other than gridlock. 

Its a tough deal all around. Ask the Wilcuts about scrapping an entire subdivision because the officials at the state level told them no permits unless you build low income housing in that 500k to 650k dollar a house subdivision. 

Not to get into the tulles on this but I would find a city mandating a MHP pretty hard to believe.  I will ask Marc about what your talking about.   I was in escrow on a property for 7 or 8 lots  corner of 7th and Alder.. I see its finally going.. the city mandated improvements were always more than we can pencil and the church owned it and they had some old appraisal showing a value of 2X what was reality so you just have to wait them out. 

Im very very familiar with that 7th street development. I spent quite a bit of time there this summer with D&T. I wanted one of those lots badly, but way too much for any kind of ROI. That is one of the hottest area's in our town. I believe its 12 lots(I think) and they are selling very fast due to location.You did very well with that project, im happy for you. There is no city mandate on that site that I know of.