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All Forum Posts by: Brandon Beardt

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Post: DSCR loan question and help

Brandon Beardt
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Quote from @Michelle Phimmasone:

We are purchasing a beach condo STR purposes. Our broker had offered us these loan options:

20% down at 8.5% interest, $65000 down, $1999 monthly

25% down at 7.5% interest, $81500 down, $1704 monthly

We wanted to keep as much cash in the bank as possible so we went with the 20% down loan. They started working on it last month with a closing date of July 25. Just yesterday broker lets me know that the monthly isn't meeting the DSCR ratio and is short by around $49. He asked if we could do 23% down...that would be an additional $9750 cash upfront downpayment. I asked if buying just one point (cost maybe be $2600) to lower interest rate to 8.25% would be enough to meet the ratio. Also asked if we did a higher down like 25%, would we be offered a lower interest rate like before. He responded that he would check the costs of buying down the interest rate. Im feeling uneasy, with being told that we'd need more downpayment last minute but at the higher interest rate doesn't seem fair? If we had known earlier we would have taken the other option. Is there anything else we can ask, or no other options but to buy points or pay the additional $10K down? 



Hi Michelle,

Sorry to hear that you're having to go through with this towards the last stage of the process. It sounds like paying 1 point to buy down the interest rate would be your best bet in order to meet the DSCR, as it seems the most cost effective strategy for your goal (keep as much cash in the bank). If you really think about it, it's either $2,600 out of your pocket to the lender or $9,750 back in your pocket, but as equity. Hope that makes sense. When it boils down to tight ratio's on purchases like this, I always double check the taxes and make sure that the estimated annual amount is correct. This could lead to over estimated monthly taxes and hurt the DSCR ratio. Verify the actual tax rate for the property (Current assessed value/current annual tax amt) and multiply it by the new purchase price (since this will be the new assessed value). That should give you the new annual tax amount. Your broker should be able to do this themselves to confirm. Not sure if it'll help in this situation necessarily, but definitely something to look into since every dollar counts!

Post: DSCR loan question and help

Brandon Beardt
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  • Lender
  • La Crescenta, CA
  • Posts 258
  • Votes 157
Quote from @Michelle Phimmasone:

We are purchasing a beach condo STR purposes. Our broker had offered us these loan options:

20% down at 8.5% interest, $65000 down, $1999 monthly

25% down at 7.5% interest, $81500 down, $1704 monthly

We wanted to keep as much cash in the bank as possible so we went with the 20% down loan. They started working on it last month with a closing date of July 25. Just yesterday broker lets me know that the monthly isn't meeting the DSCR ratio and is short by around $49. He asked if we could do 23% down...that would be an additional $9750 cash upfront downpayment. I asked if buying just one point (cost maybe be $2600) to lower interest rate to 8.25% would be enough to meet the ratio. Also asked if we did a higher down like 25%, would we be offered a lower interest rate like before. He responded that he would check the costs of buying down the interest rate. Im feeling uneasy, with being told that we'd need more downpayment last minute but at the higher interest rate doesn't seem fair? If we had known earlier we would have taken the other option. Is there anything else we can ask or is buying down points all we can do


 Hi Michelle,

Sorry to hear that you're having to go through with this towards the last stage of the process. It sounds like paying 1 point to buy down the interest rate would be your best bet in order to meet the DSCR, as it seems the most cost effective strategy for your goal (keep as much cash in the bank). If you really think about it, it's either $2,600 out of your pocket to the lender or $9,750 back in your pocket, but as equity. Hope that makes sense. When it boils down to tight ratio's on purchases like this, I always double check the taxes and make sure that the estimated annual amount is correct. This could lead to over estimated monthly taxes and hurt the DSCR ratio. Verify the actual tax rate for the property (Current assessed value/current annual tax amt) and multiply it by the new purchase price (since this will be the new assessed value). That should give you the new annual tax amount. Your broker should be able to do this themselves to confirm. Not sure if it'll help in this situation necessarily, but definitely something to look into since every dollar counts!

Post: Advice on portfolio loans

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Quote from @Andre Houston:

Thank you so much for this information what is a DSCR loan ?


DSCR stands for debt service coverage ratio. Lenders want to see this ratio be at least equal to or greater than 1. They determine this by looking at the current monthly rental income and the projected monthly principal, interest, taxes, and insurance payment. If the monthly rent exceeds the monthly payment, the property's good to go.

Post: DSCR loans for STR purchase in Florida

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Quote from @Dan Aharon:

Hi folks! I am about to enter contract on a ~$800k SFH in the Miami metro area in Florida. Looking for DSCR loans, and I was wondering what experience people have had with them. Coverage would be close to 100%, depending on the interest rate and what rental revenue is assumed during the purchase. 20-25% down is fine. Has anyone done similar deals recently? Any good lenders to contact and/or what rates should I expect to find?


 Hi Dan,

First off, congrats! That's awesome to hear that your expanding your RE investment portfolio. From my experience on the financing side, DSCR loans are easy to structure and have a straight forward process. Quite literally, if the rental income is equal to or greater than the PITI, it'll qualify (with some exceptions of course). 75% LTV is typical, but I have worked with lenders willing to do 80%. I usually advise against it as it could lower the DSCR too much though. I'd recommend shopping around with different lenders so you have a general idea/feel about what to expect in terms of rates and the whole process itself. You can expect rates to START in the mid to high 6's. If you'd like to discuss this scenario or any other scenario with me, don't hesitate to reach out! Always happy to help. :)

Post: Best rates for DSCR loans

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Quote from @Donnya Heyward:

Hello BP group. Where are you all finding good rates for cash refi on a BRRR?? I have been shopping around but not seeing much. Which institutions are your go to for Cash Out Refi on LTR??? I have good credit of 760-800 but the rates seem crappy being offered.


Like Stephanie said, there are many factors that go into rates. It all depends on the loan scenario. I'm seeing rates for DSCR loans starting in the mid 6's as well. If you think rates will go down soon, consider buying down the prepay so you can refinance earlier. If you think rates will continue to rise, consider buying down the rate itself. Keep shopping and good luck! :)

Post: Advice on portfolio loans

Brandon Beardt
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  • La Crescenta, CA
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Quote from @Andre Houston:

Hello my name is Andre Houston I am a real estate investor. I have 3 properties so far 2 rentals and 1 primary. I bought my first house 5 years ago for 200,000. I bought my second property 4 years ago. My primary was purchased 2 years ago. My first property is probably worth 250,000 and I owe about 194,000 second property I paid 300,000 and its worth about 523,000 an I owe about 275,000 and my third property I paid 500,000 but I refinanced it because I basically turned it into a duplex it's a split level home I'm renting my downstairs out but I owe about 514,000 an it's worth 834,000. I have been working for 9 years my credit score is about 775 I'm on a medical leave right now so I'm not able to show income but I have so much equity in all three homes do you think I could get a portfolio loan for just my rentals I don't really want to add my primary in it unless I have to or what other options do I have since I'm not a w2 worker right now. Thanks for your input I know it's a long post but I just wanted to make sure I put all the Information out.


Hi Andre, you can do a portfolio loan based on DSCR for your rentals, assuming that it's cash flowing. That way you wouldn't have to provide any income verification documentation (like W2's, paystubs, tax returns, etc). As long as the rental income is greater than the PITI payment, you'd be able to qualify (with some exceptions of course). Max leverage is usually around 75% if you're looking for cash out. You also have the option of doing separate DSCR loans for each rental. However, it'd be smart to go through the scenarios side by side and compare the pro's, cons, and cost of either option. IF the property is able to cash flow, DSCR financing seems like your best bet. I hope this helps in someway shape or form. If you have any questions regarding this kind of financing, don't hesitate to reach out! :) Always here to help.

Post: Santa Barbara Informal Investor Meetup #12

Brandon Beardt
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Quote from @Baird King:
Quote from @Brandon Beardt:
Quote from @Baird King:

Please join us for the 12th informal Santa Barbara real estate investor meetup. We are a group of folks of all experience levels who share an interest in real estate investing. This event gives us an opportunity to get together and share stories, experiences, leads, etc. Whether you have only just started dreaming of your first property, or just closed on your 100th, we look forward to having you join.

Please RSVP here and post a response if you plan on joining so we know who to look out for. Give me a call or text at 805-705-5667 if you have any questions or have trouble finding us at the event. We always set up in the outside area to the left of the taproom as you are facing the entrance.

NOTE: we have started an email list to supplement these BP event notifications. If you would like to be included on the list to receive future invitations via email, please direct message me your email address.


 Hi Baird,

Can you please add me to the email list for future events? I'm moving up there in about a month or so and would like to join!

 You got it @Brandon Beardt! Shoot me your email when you have a chance too and I'll add you to the email list.  Hope to see you at the next event.


 Hi Baird,

My email is [email protected] - thank you!!

Post: Santa Barbara Informal Investor Meetup #12

Brandon Beardt
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  • La Crescenta, CA
  • Posts 258
  • Votes 157
Quote from @Baird King:

Please join us for the 12th informal Santa Barbara real estate investor meetup. We are a group of folks of all experience levels who share an interest in real estate investing. This event gives us an opportunity to get together and share stories, experiences, leads, etc. Whether you have only just started dreaming of your first property, or just closed on your 100th, we look forward to having you join.

Please RSVP here and post a response if you plan on joining so we know who to look out for. Give me a call or text at 805-705-5667 if you have any questions or have trouble finding us at the event. We always set up in the outside area to the left of the taproom as you are facing the entrance.

NOTE: we have started an email list to supplement these BP event notifications. If you would like to be included on the list to receive future invitations via email, please direct message me your email address.


 Hi Baird,

Can you please add me to the email list for future events? I'm moving up there in about a month or so and would like to join!

Post: DSCR Loans and Alternatives

Brandon Beardt
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  • La Crescenta, CA
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Quote from @Tony Mayo:

I currently have 10 mortgages in my name so I am just learning about a DCSR loans. 

Is this pretty much the only option once we hit that 10 loan cap for conventional loans?

Any other creative ideas that you have seen?

Any banks that you have had good experience with?

Thanks in advance


 Hi Tony,

Since you've hit the conventional mortgage loan cap, NonQM financing may be your next best bet. This type of financing includes programs such as DSCR or bank statement programs. As of late, DSCR has been extremely popular with RE investors as the qualification is much easier (no need to see any sort of income verification docs). Basically, if the Rents are greater than the PITI, you qualify. We work with quite a few different NonQM lenders and are very well versed in what they require/are willing to lend on. Hope this helps in someway! If you have any questions, don't hesitate to reach out.

Post: 30 year investment mortgage

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Quote from @Owen Hawbaker:

@Brandon Beardt

I was looking conventional simply because I didn't know any better. Did get approved on a 30 with Wells Fargo.

What is a non-QM? What are the pros and cons?


That's great! Glad to hear you got approved. Non-QM loans allow you to qualify based on other alternatives instead of the traditional DTI method ((DSCR for example when the monthly rents > monthly PITI (principal, interest, taxes, insurance) = you qualify)). Pro's include different qualification methods if you have trouble qualifying conventionally or just don't want to go down that road and provide all the docs needed for conventional financing. For DSCR, for example, you wouldn't need to provide any sort of income documentation, just need to make sure the market rent > PITI. There are also different term options, such as interest only or 40 year fixed, but usually the 30 year fixed makes the most sense. Some cons include that the rate is a tad higher and that there are prepayment penalties.