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All Forum Posts by: Bryan Stengel

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Post: Best Short-Term Rental markets

Bryan StengelPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Long Island
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 38
Quote from @Mike H.:
Quote from @Bryan Stengel:

Hi Tariq, the STR markets are very saturate especially in the prime areas. There is a lot more competition than before. Listing prices for areas like near the Smokey Mountains are exceptionally. You'd have to be a builder to really reap any sort of profits from an area as such. Truthfully, I don't think a Capitalization Rate of 8% is terrible plus you'll have an appreciating asset along with the tax benefits. At this point, I definitely would find some solace in that. I currently have an STR in the Poconos and I would recommend if you ever pick a home here to consider style. The Realtor that helped me find a home told me it really didn't matter upon purchasing, but later it did become apparent that in VRBO or Airbnb renters are looking for that Chalet-style home with some amenities. If you ever decide to look over in this area, I'd be happy to put you in touch with the systems I utilize over here and give you insight on which areas to look for. Overall, it's pretty affordable too. For a nice possibly furnished STR, you are looking at between $250,000 to $350,000 depending on your budget. Feel free to send me message.


 Interesting addition when you suggest that builders are the only ones to reap any profits.  I think thats true if the builder sells some builds and keeps some.  

But I would add a couple of things.  Don't just look at the area overall and listen to people say its oversaturated and things are down.  Be sure to investigate the varying product types.  Great example is Bryan's take on buying chalet style homes in the poconos.  Thats the kind of information that separates a good investment from a not so good investment. 

And thats exactly what you need to do some digging to find out when you investigate each area.  Sevier county TN (gatlinburg, sevierville, pigeon forge) is a great example.  People buying the smaller cabins for 500k to 550k are getting 50k to 60k in rent by year 2.  Their numbers are solid.  The bigger cabins - not so much. So if you were investing solely in smaller cabins, you'd think sevier county was doing pretty good right now.  If you had bigger cabins only, definitely not.

One thing I would add though is that your returns are somewhat based on your purchase price which you can control.  As an investor, I don't believe in ever paying retail. I just don't think paying retail is investing.  If you could pay retail and make a good return, then literally anyone can do it.

What you need to do is identify your area. Then identify your product niche/type.  Then find matches for that product that you are able to buy at a discount.  Don't be afraid to blast offers to every listing on the mls for 80% of what they're asking.  You'd be surprised at what you might get - especially now with rents being down and some of these long term owners having grabbed a ton of equity over the last 10 years or so.   

Even if these people know their property is worth more, there is sometimes that one owner that wants the windfall of cash they have coming and will take that low offer.  Its a numbers game.  Find a realtor that will submit the offers and lower your cost basis enough to where your returns get a bit of a bump.  But even better is that you'll have enough equity there to where you'll be able to refi sooner and pull all your money back out so you can grow more. 

Mike is absolutely right.  I would never want to deter anybody from an area such as that in the Smokeys.  I think I should correct myself and say that builders are certainly not the only ones to reap profits from there.  I think I'm speaking for myself in terms of a price point that I'm personally not comfortable with over there since it is not in my own buy box yet.  However, those cabins are great investments.

Post: Best Short-Term Rental markets

Bryan StengelPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Long Island
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 38

Hi Tariq, the STR markets are very saturate especially in the prime areas. There is a lot more competition than before. Listing prices for areas like near the Smokey Mountains are exceptionally. You'd have to be a builder to really reap any sort of profits from an area as such. Truthfully, I don't think a Capitalization Rate of 8% is terrible plus you'll have an appreciating asset along with the tax benefits. At this point, I definitely would find some solace in that. I currently have an STR in the Poconos and I would recommend if you ever pick a home here to consider style. The Realtor that helped me find a home told me it really didn't matter upon purchasing, but later it did become apparent that in VRBO or Airbnb renters are looking for that Chalet-style home with some amenities. If you ever decide to look over in this area, I'd be happy to put you in touch with the systems I utilize over here and give you insight on which areas to look for. Overall, it's pretty affordable too. For a nice possibly furnished STR, you are looking at between $250,000 to $350,000 depending on your budget. Feel free to send me message.

Post: Multi Family in Dunmore, PA

Bryan StengelPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Long Island
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 38
Quote from @John Tomassacci:

Hi Brian,

Appreciate your response.  I own multifamily in Great Bend and Halsted PA.  I've been looking in the Scranton/Dunmore area for about 2 years but the cash flow doesn't seem to be there.  I'm about ready to retire so I'm not looking to compete in a bidding war, mainly looking for a fair deal that I can rehab or a turnkey with some cash flow.  Have a great day.  


 Hi John,

Of course!  How much cash flow are you looking for?  I am pulling in between $500 to $1,000 from mine each month even at a high interest rate with about 25% down for each.  They were both turnkey at the time of purchase too. 

Post: Multi Family in Dunmore, PA

Bryan StengelPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Long Island
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 38

Hi John, I actually do invest in the Scranton area in the Greenridge corners close by Marywood University.  The cash flow has been pretty good once full.  Vacancy takes about 30 to 45 days for me to fill.  They don't appreciate fast like a single-family home might in this area.  I have a mix of students and families.  Turnover hasn't been too often either.  As long as you do right by your tenants, you'll be in good shape.  Dunmore is excellent too.  You can't go wrong in this area.  There is a lot of upside and the future looks good too.

Post: Launch Your Leads Scam

Bryan StengelPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Long Island
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 38

Hi Tonya, thank you for informing us about such scams!  I see it advertised all the time about how these companies are able to generate leads and allow you to sit in the driver seat while they do all the hard work.  It is sad that no enforcement can even go after their fraudulent business practices. 

Post: Small & Mighty Real Estate Investing

Bryan StengelPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Long Island
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 38

Hi Paul, it all depends on your comfort level.  I think that the cash flow you are generating from these properties is outstanding.  Most people are happy just to not take a loss each month.  I feel as though your buy box puts you in a position for more flexibility.  Multi-family for me has been the way to go and has left me assurance that even during vacancy, I will be covering most of my mortgage.  At full occupancy, the cash flow I just keep in reserves for repairs or help pay the principal.  Real estate is about having that flexibility is about utilizing leverage if you want to or pull back when you rather just collect.  Ultimately, putting more down will allow you to get a interest rate and lower mortgage payment over time.  I personally never like to over leverage myself too, but then again maybe I need more experience in this area too.  

Post: Real estate rookie looking for advice on east coast (nj, ny, pa, ri, ct, md, dc)

Bryan StengelPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Long Island
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 38

Hi Robert, it seems as though that you are in a great situation.  It depends on what you are comfortable doing.  You could always do a house hack in a multifamily space.  Remember up to four units is still considered residential.  However if you do not want to live next to your tenants and run the risk of being in an uncomfortable situation, you may put a small amount of money down with the right loan structure.  As mentioned, I would definitely seek out the advice of experts in those specific markets depending on where you decide to go. 

Post: mid term rental

Bryan StengelPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Long Island
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 38

Hi Sean, that is truly an interesting strategy that you are considering.  I would definitely reach out to several brokerages within the area that could better facilitate as the middleman when Insurance Companies do reach out.  As a medium-term rental, you'd be in better position to be connected with Insurance Company that way.  

Post: Fix & Flip and BRRR in the Scranton area

Bryan StengelPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Long Island
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 38

Hi Abraham, I have definitely had some success.  I did my first long-term holds in Scranton after much research and have enjoyed a steady cash flow.  I am currently invested close the Marywood University where I do have a combination of family and student tenants.  I would say it's been a learning experience so far.  

Post: HELOC vs Taking money out of the stock market

Bryan StengelPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Long Island
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 38

Hi Tom, I would reconsider taking out a full two hundred thousand dollars for a HELOC unless the numbers make sense in terms of possibly making that money back and paying off the loan. It is true that you'll probably only be responsible for paying off the interest for the first ten years. Truthfully though, I would do a cash out refinance for a large sum of money on my primary residence to ensure I do get a better rate. I know a HELOC normally does not come with much of a closing cost, but over the long-term, this might make the most sense. You will also get better terms on the refinance if it is on your primary residence too. In addition, the tax implications are better on a refinance which you will be able to deduct. A HELOC will not allow you to deduct I believe on the interest unless the money is utilized for repairs on your primary residence and not to buy another home. Best of luck!

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