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All Forum Posts by: Caroline Pham

Caroline Pham has started 2 posts and replied 7 times.

Post: How Do You Pitch MTR Proposals?

Caroline PhamPosted
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Quote from @Joey Banasihan:

Hey @Nick Radwin, welcome to the coolest strategy on BP! Hahaha kinda kidding but kinda not haha.  To answer you questions briefly, most times its not so much a proposal or pitch, its building relationships with these folks. Insurance companies have websites that you simply list your property for free, and if it matches their criteria regarding the people or family being displaced regarding space/need/amentities, etc. they will reach out. Structuring is really going to be whether their timeline, compensation, additional insurance, policies, etc, align with your space. 

Other avenues around government or coopprate housing/agencies is researching them, making contact with them, and simply building rapport and trust over a long period of time (12-18months). Consistency of contact, staying top of mind, and building a relationship is what will give you an opportunity to be contacted consistently by them.  I recently negotiated with an agency for ending of 2024 for 12 months, and that took 10 months of me building a relationship and staying in contact with them etc.

Hope that helps provide a framework. I started with Furnish Finder to learn the ropes of MTR for a year, then I began moving into agenicies and working that for the past year to hopefully start that new phase in a year.

Hi Joey - super helpful post. Can you share some government/ corporate / insurance relocation agencies that you've worked with/recommend etc? CRS reached out to me based on my property on Zillow, so im just researching and reaching out to other insurance relocation agencies. Such a brilliant idea!

they reached out to me too just now! Has anyone worked with them since this was posted 3 months ago? any updates? 

Quote from @Hollee Mills:

There is a fb page called Furnished Finders, medical professionals use it as it was started by a travel nurse.  Although many travelers are posting negative remarks complaining about both Furnished Finders and Airbnb LL's.  

Comments state that some LL's are locking out the thermostats, the condition of the properties are bad, and feeling "scammed".  I have never had this experience just what I am reading. 

A great way to market to travelers is to reach out to Nurse Recruiters/Agencies.  They can then refer a traveler who will be in your area.  It is a win-win for both parties.  Many nurses will also refer each other to properties.  

Lastly, you can just post your property on your personal fb page.  I am sure there is someone who knows someone who travels.  I am happy to post on my page if you would like.  I am a member of several large travel nursing groups.


 Hi @Hollee did you google nurse recruiter/ agencies around you? Are there major reputable agencies that I should reach out to? any pro tips in that direction is greatly appreciated! thank you 

@Account Closed hey thats a great tip! My house is zoned for both residential and commercial - does that help? With regards to department of health: wow yes, I should find that out first before i even spin my wheels finding an investor. Speaking of license - isnt that on the operator to procure? 

Hi investors! 

I am interested in offering up my property in Los Angeles to sober living facilities. How do i go about finding operators? Should i cold call around to nearby SLF near me? Look up similiar agencies on NARR/ CCAPP/ Oxford house? 

Please share how you got started with your property(ies) renting out to operators and how you scaled/expanded! Thank you! 

I have a property in Los Angeles that I want to offer up to an Operator as a sober living facility - are you or anyone you know looking to operate/ expand in Los Angeles? It's a 5 bed 4 bath duplex with ample parking, space, on a quiet street, and im pretty sure the neighbors won't care, very near a fire dept for any accidents

Additionally! I am interested in investing out of state into a property that can in turn be used for a sober living facility. Are you, or anyone you know, an operator in another state looking for property, and/or a real estate agent?

Please reach out here or DM if you're either of these! Would love to chat and pick your brain also on the business! 

Post: Sober Living thoughts?

Caroline PhamPosted
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Quote from @Amy Konopka:

Connect with me and I'll shoot you my phone number.

There are definitely crappy sober living homes out there.  If you choose this route, first learn about the Best Practices established by NARR.   They are at the forefront for all legislation trying to finally get Best Practices established.  There's SOOOOOOOO much stigma surrounding them, and rightfully so.  I got into the business after stepping into one and seeing one that wasn't properly managed.  But if you're renting a home to someone who wants to do it, they should be locked on and at least look for the "pseudo-certifcations" offered by the States through NARR.

My sober living home is SPOTLESS. It is 1000 times cleaner than my other rental property that is currently rented by an Officer in the Marine corps (single, no family, and house hacking with a buddy against the lease) 

I walk in there any time I want, unannounced. Iy home is about an hour drive but I visit a few times a week because my House manager and I are a team  "walking the lines" since I want to be actively involved. I have 9 beds in a 5 bedroom home (i could easily fit more beds per sq ft but again I dont want to be one of "those" homes.  

  The girls have daily chores and weekly chores. But the house was also renovated and updated and opened with all new furnishings, not a mish-mosh of goodwill pieces like the other homes so this is a lot of their first chances at having a nice home. They WANT a nice house.   I also am not a "bed filler" in other words, I'm not looking for immediate cash flow-I want to set the standards that my house isn't a place for "cheap beds/rent".  I've turned away potential "guests" because they weren't serious about their recovery. Its painful if I look at the cash flow I'm losing, but I have that choice.  

Be prepared with being comfortable with threatening to be sued and booting people out that day when they pop positive. That should be filtered out thru the person renting the house from you, but it may trickle up to you.  Maintaining anonymity and involvement solves this problem, but I'm in it for different reasons  for more than real/estate and cash flow so its impossible to get out of that scenario now!!

To all the naysayers who say they're dumps, depends on you and your systems and the management of the MOST important piece of this puzzle--Your House Manager. Its not for the faint of heart, but some one has to do it. They're needed, they're here to stay and nothing makes me happier than doing good, but doing well.   My neighbors love me. They know. They're better behaved than any tenant I've had.  meth addicts, heroin users, alchoholics.  All under one roof.  Trying to do better.  Thats all it is  


 Amy - would love to learn more! Sent a connect! Thanks