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All Forum Posts by: Chris Mason

Chris Mason has started 100 posts and replied 9561 times.

Post: Under contract, need a lender

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I'd suggest also exploring commercial financing options for this. 

Post: Keep Being Denied as Out of State Investor

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Quote from @Erhan Sen:

Hi,

I am trying to find financing for multifamily properties I am interested. However, local banks, in the same state/city with properties, keep saying that they can't work with me because I am not local - out of state. Is this common? What's the reason? Any hints or recommendations?

Thx


 That sounds like a regional bank thing - "XYZ County Savings Bank," as a regional bank, might be limited to only servicing clients who live within their county footprint, for example. 

Reach out to mortgage companies and mortgage brokers local to that specific area. "ABC Mortgage" or "DEF Home Loans" will not have such restrictions. 

Post: W2 Income History

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Quote from @Kyler J Sloan:

Thanks! @Reid Chauvin

Another thing that I have questioned relates to the fact that I am considering self-employment soon. What if I go to being a W2 employee, doing the same thing in the same industry, but working for myself instead of someone else?

Go get all the mortgages you're going to want for the next 2 years out of your system, AND THEN go start your new business. Home purchase, refinance, HELOC, whatever. You can't rely on "maybe" and loophopes (which may be fleeting) when it comes to stuff like this, if want there to be certainty, then I'm certain you should go get all the mortgages out of your system now. 

I did this personally when I went from mortgage banker (W2) to mortgage broker ("1099" - not really but close enough) some years ago, because it turns out what's good for the goose is good for the gander. I was eager to get going, so I did a refi a little earlier than I otherwise would have done, and got a "you never know" HELOC that I never wound up needing/using.

You can "lay groundwork" while getting a mortgage, for example if you establish an S Corp, or get a new license/credential, without quitting your current job, then your current job's income will still "count." Obviously don't tell anyone at your current place of employment that you're thinking of making a switch.

Post: Client was accidentally foreclosed on and now gets a 40 year loan. Legit?

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Quote from @Jacob Pereira:

Keep in mind that this is second hand, so some of the details might be off, but here's my understanding of the situation. One of my client's loans was sold to another provider, who didn't do a good job reaching out to her, so she never knew that her provider changed and she continued to pay the original provider. After about 6 months, she started getting calls from all the investors who try to buy foreclosures, so she reached out and realized that her loan had been sold. Once she spoke to the new company, they mentioned that her loan had been in default and because of that they offered her an option to reset the loan into a 40-year at the same rate (3.4%) which would cut her payment by around $500 a month. She's 67, so she's unlikely to reach the end of this loan, but she also had 24 years left on her original, so she's unlikely to finish that one either. Is this legitimate? If so, shouldn't all investors do this? 


The loan mod into a 40 year term is plausible.

The loan servicers (old and new) "not doing a good job of reaching out to her" is not plausible or likely.  

Investors shouldn't do this because that was far from a guaranteed outcome. There was a flowchart that the new loan servicer took her down, a series of both documents they collected and questions they asked, and she answered in such a way that she arrived at the end of that flowchart at a 40 year mortgage term. Her credit is probably trashed. And she likely has no idea how she answered the various questions, nor what the criteria were (was it based on her being moderate income? And was that moderate income relative to her census tract, her county, or the state? Etc etc). So there's no way to consistently reproduce this outcome.

The fallout of 2008 produced a bunch of "loan mod gurus." Some of them lost their real estate license, some are on the Freddie Mac Exclusionary list (meaning FHA/VA/Fannie/Freddie will not do ANY loan, ever, on any transaction that these people are involved in [even if they're involvement isn't as a buyer/borrower] -- basically the 'no fly list' for mortgages), and some are in prison. What the loan mod gurus didn't produce was consistently positive outcome for their clients.

Post: Lender being Shady

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The lender isn't being shady. Incompetent, perhaps. 

All the things you listed can legitimately change the cost of PMI, and lenders (both the individual MLO you are speaking with, and the bank doing the loan) aren't allowed to make money off of PMI being higher.

Post: Tools/resources to find current mortgage owed

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Quote from @Michael Poloncic:

Hey BP community! Are there resources available to the general public to find out if a seller has a current mortgage payment and how much remains in the principle? If so, what tools are there? If not are there other approaches to finding out without straight up asking the seller?

Thank you!


 Your loan officer can look up the recent mortgage origination history and ballpark it in about 30 seconds. We can't see their payment history, but we know if they got a $525k refi in July 2021 their rate is X% and if they've neither missed payments or paid extra, they would likely owe such-and-such dollars. 

It's the same source of information that resulted in you getting a bunch of refi junk mail in 2020/2021.

Post: Write offs and qualifying for a loan

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Quote from @Shervin Mirdamadi:

This question pertains to an investor who has limited income on w2. If after your write offs on your taxes you are at a loss on your rental property income ( the property has a mortgage) and the time comes where you are looking for your next deal will that loss not allow you to use 75% of rental income to offset the mortgage on the above rental on your credit ? Any insight on this is much appreciated. I am trying to figure out if i should go all in on the write off or will that work against me on qualifying for the next loan since my W2 income from my job is a limiting factor. Does getting a conventional vs private loan on that next deal make any difference with the above regarding income?

Thank you


A LO familiar with investment property loans will still be able to use the rental income to offset. If it's cashflow negative $200/mo, then they only have to count that $200 against your DTI -- not the full $2500 that the mortgage payment might be.

As always, depreciation and a few other things are also "added back," so it might not actually be calculated as a negative number even if that is the bottom line number on your tax returns.

Post: Owner finance, no interest, owned outright, large down payment

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The IRS has a minimum interest rate. Anyone charging less than that, the IRS will treat it as a gift. Among other things. You will likely want to retain the services of a private mortgage servicing company - they will also likely have all the other 'things' you need, as well. 

Post: Pros and Cons between HELOC and Bank Construction loan for New home construction

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If you have the equity, HELOC, no question about it.

- lower fees. A lot.

- easier/faster process -- no draw approvals or any of that.

- your builder will not charge you extra for having to deal with BS.

Only downside is that HELOCs are all adjustable rate mortgages. Dangerous for the long term, but once the construction is done you will likely take out a mortgage on it to pay the adjustable rate HELOC off entirely anyways.

Post: California "Dream for All" shared appreciation down payment assistance is insane.

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Offered through many different lenders, nothing exclusive here. 

Live this week. 

It's a 2nd mortgage for up to 20% of the sales price. 80/20, partying like it's 1999.

No payments on the 2nd, no interest rate. If they invest 20%, they get 20% of any upside appreciation when you sell or refinance, to fund the program. So if you buy a $1m house and take $200k of assistance for the down payment (because now that's a thing, ha), and it sells in the future for $1.1m, you will have to pay back $220k -- the $200k you borrowed, plus 20% of the $100k of appreciation. You don't have to take the full 20% of assistance, and if you take less, the shared appreciation is less. 

The income limits are very generous. $282k in Alameda / Oakland, $211k in San Diego, $223k in Sonoma, $202k in Sacramento... and they hate Hollywood, because in Los Angeles borrower income is capped at $180k.

The reason it edges into real estate investing territory is that it only has your standard 12 month occupancy promise. Most DPAs make you pay them off (sell/refi) the moment you move out, this one does not, just that standard first 12 months that you must personally owner occupy. After that, you can rent, STR it, whatever you want. SFR/condo only. First time homebuyers only, among other things.

Rate on the 1st mortgage has been pre-negotiated by CalHFA to be perfectly average (today a tad below, but just a teeny tiny bit) -- which is actually really good, most DPA have vastly higher than average rates (to fund the program, but this program is funded by the shared appreciation). 

Income limits: https://www.calhfa.ca.gov/home... 

Who can offer: I'm guessing just about every loan officer in California will have this in their tool box within about 2.541 seconds, so work with whom you like. :) It's not going to be the best option for everyone, but if someone is eligible and didn't request a side-by-side with 'vanilla' financing, they'd be doing themselves a disservice.