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All Forum Posts by: Christopher Smith

Christopher Smith has started 21 posts and replied 1024 times.

I do own out of state properties.

However, I'm not a big advocate of LLCs to begin with, and to me they are a total nonstarter for Ca residents (as I am).

What do I do?

I've acquired really good relatively new properties in much better than average neighborhoods. I have top shelf time tested PMs, and quality liability insurance fine tuned with umbrella insurance.

So I achieve asset protection the old fashion way, I earn it.

Post: I don't have receipts of expenses for tax filing

Christopher SmithPosted
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With that case, The Cohan Rule was established. It allows taxpayers to deduct expenses for business even if they do not have the receipts to document them. The ruling says that the expenses must be reasonable and credible, so you can't go saying that you spent $1,000 on a hammer.

"Regardless of where the trade or business of the LLC is primarily conducted, an LLC is considered to be doing business in California if any of its members, managers, or other agents are conducting business in California on behalf of the LLC."

Whatever the merits of Anderson's position might ultimately be, based upon the above I think its pretty clear that the State of California will assert that Ca Franchise tax is owed because you will be considered as conducting business in California on behalf of the LLCs.

So would you create an LLC and elect corporate tax status (most likely S Corp)? Sale of the property to a single member LLC would be disregarded without the LLC electing S or C corporation tax status.

Now you would have rental trapped in a corporation, is that acceptable?

If this works probably would want to ensure the price is arms length. 

I'd be interested in hearing other thoughts.

Post: Real Estate or Stocks. Same ROI, Which is Better For Taxes?

Christopher SmithPosted
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As an estate and gift tax advisor in a previous life this has been on the liberal agenda for 50 years, so in that regard it's really very old news. As I indicated before, the Democrats are going to have a very difficult time pushing this through an evenly divided Senate, and I'm not sure Biden will support it either (at least not in the form as presented in the link).

In reality I think it is at most an initial negotiating position or just as likely mandatory virtue signaling for those members of Congress on the radical left in there neverending effort to be holier than thou.

If the Democrats want to keep their highly tenuous control of the Senate they will need to come up with something much more reasonable.

Not sure it's a loophole, as long as the last months rent is so applied then it's not part of the refundable security deposit. This assumes the landlord can ask for first and last months rent under your landlord tenant act.

Post: Real Estate or Stocks. Same ROI, Which is Better For Taxes?

Christopher SmithPosted
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Just an FYI, thought I saw just this morning, that Cathie Wood's ARKK has lost over 40% of it's value since its February high. That's definitely hitting it out of the park, just in the wrong direction.

That should be enough to sober anyone up thinking that jumping in after staggering gains have already been made is a sure sign that they will continue. Not saying what will happen from here, but you should have your eyes wide wide open.

Post: Real Estate or Stocks. Same ROI, Which is Better For Taxes?

Christopher SmithPosted
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Originally posted by @William Coet:

@Christopher Smith

I remember an interview with Cathie Wood where she discussed valuations for "value" vs. "growth" stocks.  She said it is common to see higher p/e ratios for growth stocks in their growth phase that level off when they reach the value stage.  As you know she is a big proponent of identifying companies with high growth potential (she often refers to exponential growth potential).  I suppose it's riskier, but she is hitting it out of the park.  She'll even go so far as to say that it's risky to be in value and not be in the stocks they choose!  I'm not making an argument for or against, just sharing ideas here.

Sure, but the problem with that is by the time the entire world knows you're often way late to the party and you're left holding a disastrously over priced security. The folks that have made a mountain of cash with her were likely in much earlier, people getting in now are probably facing a pretty ugly risk reward profile they just don't realize it and likely won't until it's too late. The easy money likely has been made.

Nearly all my stocks have been considered growth and higher PEs come with that territory so I have no problem with that. But I do have a problem with jumping on the band wagon after the whole world knows, by that time the risk of massive overpricing is almost a guarantee. I would assume if you've read it in an article somewhere the whole world clearly knows.

So no problem with growth, but remember that no matter how attractive a stocks business growth maybe there is still a price range at which it's grossly overvalued and a poor investment even if hysteria is keeping the price artificially high even for an extended period of time.

My Chinese internet stock had a PE of well over 100 and I made over 1M on it the first time I invested in it. Then the bottom fell out and it lost 85% of it's value shortly after I sold it in no time flat. I was very fortunate to have gotten out. 

I bought back in after the crash and it's higher now than ever before, so my timing had been very fortuitous. But it's a very dangerous game and many people who play it long enough lose, and those who come late almost always lose long term, and lose big.

Plus I would argue there really is no distinction between growth and value, a stock is a stock and it's either undervalued or overvalued based upon it's future prospects regardless of its level of growth.

Here's hoping you are not late to the party.

Post: 1031 exchange vs opportunity zone

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Most of the DSTs I looked at had so many internal fees that by the time you were figured them all in a large percentage of the tax savings was effectively lost. Not sure what that achieves unless you are desperate to get out of the saddle, and even if so there seem to be better ways (e.g., keep the property as a rental and get a good PM).

Post: Cost Segregation Study for Taxes

Christopher SmithPosted
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Originally posted by @Tory Sheffer:

@Ashish Acharya It’s been reviewed with CPA’s for the company and investors and they will be able to take advantage of depreciation.

On what basis will they be able to take "immediate" tax advantage of the depreciation deduction? Are they all material participants in the activity, do they have other offsetting passive income, just looking for clarification? Just a word of caution. I might be a little reluctant to do much fist pumping until the relevant statues have passed, and then maybe not even then. Nails that haven't been fully driven have a nasty habit of attracting hammers.