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All Forum Posts by: Martin Fletcher

Martin Fletcher has started 8 posts and replied 27 times.

Post: Buying Home From Parents and Leasing Back to Them

Martin FletcherPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Mount Airy, MD
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 16

Recently my wife and I purchased her parents home and leased it back to them. I think the process we went through and the structure we ultimately followed may be of interest and perhaps help to others so I will summarize it here.

My wife's parents were approaching retirement. Even though they had worked hard their entire lives, they still owed a substantial amount on their home and it would not have been possible for them to start retiring and still service the mortgage. When they explored selling the house and leasing a different place, they found that the cost to rent a comparable property or even something close was going to cost at least as much as the mortgage on their current place. Thus, selling and renting a comparable place would not have improved their cash flow for retirement.

My wife and I wanted to help and began exploring the options.  One option would be to simply give then the funds needed to service their current mortgage so that they could retire and stay in the home. Another option would have been to help pay their rent for a new place.  The problem with helping make the mortgage payments is that any equity created would be in their estate and potentially subject to claims of medicaid liens should they have health issues later in life and eventually need to move into a nursing home.  The problem with simply helping pay rent for a new place is that it creates no equity.  So, two problems, the equity created by paying the mortgage might be at risk from future medicaid claims and simply paying the rent creates no equity.

The solution we came up was to buy their house and lease it back to them at a rental rate that was something they could afford as they retired but less than the mortgage and less than the cost of leasing a comparable property.  This would meet their cash flow needs, allow them to stay in their existing home, and as we covered the difference between the mortgage and the rent, we would grow equity that could eventually go to my wife and I, rather than some future potential medicaid reimbursement claims.

In buying the property we also looked at how to maximize the tax advantages of this structure. We understood that because we were renting the property for less than fair market value, we may be limited in the expense deductions we can take on the property. We assumed that we could deduct the expenses to the extent of the below market rent. The interest payments, depreciation, insurance, and property taxes would exceed the rent and as a result the tax advantages of the transaction would be significantly limited.  Our solution was to buy the property by borrowing against our existing home rather than taking a mortgage on the new investment property.  This way the mortgage interest deduction would be run under our existing home and should be fully deductible, notwithstanding the below market rent on the investment property. The remaining deductions on the property--depreciation, insurance, and property taxes--would then be available up to the full amount of the below market rent received. As a result, we could deduct both the interest used to finance the purchase plus all other normal deductions up to the amount of rent.  

So far the transaction is working as planned: My wife's parents were able to start phasing in their retirement and have the cash flow to stay in their original home. My wife and I were able to finance the purchase in a tax advantaged way that will build equity for us over time.  

This summary is not intended as legal or accounting advice to anyone with respect to their particular situation.  Individual circumstances may be unique, the rules may vary from State to State, and anyone considering these matters should contact their own professional advisors, elder law attorney, and accountants before undertaking a similar transaction.  I do hope this summary provides food for thought to those similarly looking to help parents as they approach retirement.

Post: Farm Land Logistics

Martin FletcherPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Mount Airy, MD
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 16

Hi Mohammed,  A couple of thoughts. The first is to recognize that there are two common ways of renting out farm land: Cash or On Shares. Cash is pretty straight forward, it is typically x dollars per acre per year. Shares means the owner and the farmer each agree on the inputs they will provide and then they agree on how they will split the proceeds from the sale of the crop.  Because a lot of farm land is rented, it is possible to get a pretty good idea of what the market rent would be under either of these options. A very good source for this information would be the County Extension Agent for the county where the land is located. The Extension Agent is a government employee who helps promote farming in the area. You can usually find them on-line. Also, you should carefully check the tax assessment on the property. If it is assessed at farming value, then you should be able to rent profitably. But sometimes farmland gets assessed at its development value even though you plan to farm it. From what i have seen, once it gets assessed at development value, then it gets very difficult to rent it for enough to generate a profit because the taxes are so high.  These thing may vary materially from state to state and even within states; that is why it is a good idea to get to know the County Extension Agent. I hope this helps and good luck.  Regards, Marty

Post: Farm land investor from Missouri

Martin FletcherPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Mount Airy, MD
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 16

Hi Mike, Welcome to BP.  What kind of agricultural properties are you interested in? 

Post: Farm Land Leasing

Martin FletcherPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Mount Airy, MD
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 16

In most States the Department of Agriculture has an office called the Cooperative Extension Office that works with local farmers and the community. There should be a person in that office called the Extension Agent.  If you contact your local Extension Agent, he or she should be able to give you a good sense of local rental rates for farmland or at least point you to a local source for that information.

Post: SFH Residential Property Manager in Central Maryland

Martin FletcherPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Mount Airy, MD
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 16

Can anyone recommend a good SFH residential property manager/management company near Frederick, Damascus or Mount Airy, Maryland?

Post: New Member from Maryland

Martin FletcherPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Mount Airy, MD
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 16

Hi Mehran, I am most likely to finance deals although I might buy and hold multifamily units. Marty

Post: New Member from Maryland

Martin FletcherPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Mount Airy, MD
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 16

Hello Everyone, I am a new member in Maryland. I have been interested in real estate investing for some time and recently found the BP site. Currently, I am exploring the various opportunities for investing. I look forward to connecting with other BP members. Marty